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Old 05 September 2011, 10:19   #1
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Talk to me about RIBS!

Hello folks, I am selling my yacht as the kids aren't into sailing - "to boring Dad, we want some excitement"! So with a limited budget I have bought a Kayak from the sale and want to buy a RIB with roughly 8K. A dinghy will come later to teach the kids sailing!

Like others I love Monty Halls old Humber Destroyer and would like one just like it. I wonder how much it sold for - here! http://www.quinquarimarine.co.uk/vessels/6/29.html



It would be 5.5 -6m long, 90HP and would be used purely for leisure around Chichester Harbour and the Solent.

Sooo many questions but I have set my heart on an orange Humber (dream boat would be a lifeboat ) I don't like the grey/white look! Before I finally decide are Humbers OK, do they have any problems and what other makes/models should I look at. I am amazed new ones only come with a 1 year guarantee - yes I have spoken to Humber about a new one, 9k, but will have to save up for a S/H engine trailer etc - I don't mind scraping the rest of the money up over two years say I would keep it for life so should be worth it.

Many thanks in advance - what do you think?
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Old 05 September 2011, 10:43   #2
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To be honest, I'd stick with second hand everything at that budget, you'll get far more for your money. You also often end up with all those little bits such as rope, anchors, electronics, radio, all of which would soon add up to hundreds if you bought them yourself.

Just make sure you go see it, watch them start it from cold, take a ride on it and make sure the tube is in decent condition. Same as buying a car.

Who wants to give the government more tax in the form of VAT anyway!
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Old 05 September 2011, 11:01   #3
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Humber have not fared well recently with feedback on here, have a search and a couple of cuppas while you read through.

Lots of RIB builders make orange boats, a few of them have lifeboat credentials too!



(Not orange, I know. But it has a blue light!)
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Old 05 September 2011, 11:02   #4
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Welcome Zagato from a fellow canvas man. Don't totally give up sailing. I couldn't be a stinkpot for the rest of my days. "Point and shoot" can get so boring.

Duck! Incoming!!!!

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Old 05 September 2011, 11:03   #5
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There is nothing wrong with Humber - but if you just want an orange boat you don't need to limit yourself to Humber. Valiant, Ribcraft, Northcraft, Osprey, XS, Tornado all spring to mind as people who make boats in the size and style you want and depending on age/condition in your price bracket.

One thing to bear in mind is that whilst there are plenty of wanabe lifeboat coxwains around, resale prices for that style of boat seem to be lower than more subtle colours, unless it is a genuine ex lifeboat in which case you might pay a premium for its pedigree. This may be because a lot of the orange boats are ex Sailing Club / Dive Club boats and usually 'tired' by the time they reach the 2nd hand market.
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Old 05 September 2011, 11:13   #6
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I got one like that - Admittedly it's about to hit it's 25th birthday, so considering the multi-user "club boat abuse" it's seen is still remarkably solid.

Not sure what your outboard experience & knowledge is, but I'll second the secondhand route. A reasonable halfway house is if you get a decent s/h hull, worst case you upgrade the engine- that's going to have more resale value than a shiny boat with a proverbail bag of spanners hanging off the transom.

And to the dinghy idea - lots more to do in a dinghy, & things happen much faster. If they are <15, you could do a lot worse than an Oppie, especially if racing sounds good to them.
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Humber have not fared well recently with feedback on here, have a search and a couple of cuppas while you read through.
Really? That's a sweeping statement. If you consider the sheer number of Humber boats owned, the number of negative comments on here may well be proportionally very low to other brands.

My interpretation of the general consensus on here is they are pretty good. Solid build and excellent seakeeping hulls (except the shallow v assault, but it is priced and sold differently) with simple functional lay outs. The Humber Ocean Pro has recently been chosen for the Arctic Challenge and its hull and high sheer bow are renowned throughout the industry for being excellent in the rough stuff.

I may be one sided as we have a Humber, but there only flaw, if that's your fancy, is the interior fit out, it isn't as leisure orientated as others, but it's horses for courses.

Arguably other makes such as ribcraft and the avon adventurers, who are popular, have been getting more grief recently. The latter is a cheaper leisure boat and sold as such, with sun pads and cushions etc. The former is sold as a premium brand, costing more than equivalent Humbers for example and posters are finding poor hidden build quality on removal of hatches etc in some cases, with water ingress.
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That's a sweeping statement.
Unless you mean some other, even more, sweeping bit then eh?

"All Fords are rubbish" or "Orange boats sink faster than blue ones", now those are sweeping statements.
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Thanks for the replies I'll look into the other marques although Humber does seem to have a good pedigree with sales to many commercial/govt agencies. Not sure about Avon these days since they were taken over so out goes Bombard/Zodiac for me SeaRider, Osprey, Ribcraft all seem to be mentioned a lot on here so will look into those

I'll also look at second hand stuff when it comes up, your right you get better value for money Doesn't seem to be alot around at the moment, nothing without blue striped upholstery anyway

I will always sail hence the dinghy but a RIB will give a wider weather/tide window to get out on the water and it will be better for the family and a lot easier to maintain. Kids are 4 & 7 so A-B stuff taking in a pub/picnic etc

A nice second hand RIB for 8K, that will eat a chop...err rough seas, would be just the job
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I couldn't be a stinkpot for the rest of my days. "Point and shoot" can get so boring.
Once you've mastered point and shoot then you can go further or in worse conditions etc... ...if it gets too boring just buy a smaller rib and it becomes more exciting again. Of course if you really want to zig zag around at 5 knots you can do that too!

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Humber have not fared well recently with feedback on here, have a search and a couple of cuppas while you read through.
mmm... I'm going to have to back Paul up here. I only recall one thread in the last year where Humber took some stick. Humber have never been at the top end of the market, but then the prices reflect that. They certainly aren't at the bottom of the pile.

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Humber does seem to have a good pedigree with sales to many commercial/govt agencies.
they probably have, but there could well be some marketing spin in there too! Their 'commercial' "arm" Quinquari operate as a different company and rig those boats themselves. Many of the others also sell to both commercial and govt agencies and might well be further up the list for people with the right budget.

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= Avon but usually have grey tubes on orange hull hence I dismissed them...
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