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Old 07 September 2011, 12:06   #31
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Had a more reassuring chat with Humber, 1 year hull warranty & 5 year tube warranty.
Which begs the question... why do they expect their tubes to last longer than their fibre glass. I've nothing against Humber, its even possible that I'd buy one but you need to realise they are mid range. If you wan't "nothing's too much trouble" customer service then you'll need deeper pockets.
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Old 07 September 2011, 12:25   #32
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Thanks MikeB for the info and offer

Polwart, yes I was surprised at a one year warranty on the hull but then I know very little about it all, maybe it's the rough type of use they could get, beaching/used by companies etc - not sure!!

The tubes are bought in so whoever manufactures them backs the warranty. I wish I could find out who makes the tubes, they are bought in by quite a few UK RIB makers apparently.

I'm still on track for a 5.8 or 6m Humber - renovate one (as I will finishing my current ground up car rebuild and will want another project ), by a newish one second hand or buy a new one and fit it out myself.

I'm not put off by Humbers the explanation they gave with regards to the problems encountered on the "I'm not a happy chappy" thread was err satisfactory backed up by a surveyors report. What ever the right or wrong is in that instance you can always get one that slips through the quality net in any marque. I own Land Rover Defenders so lets face it I am used to buying hand built products that are, shall we say, lacking in quality control sometimes I tend to sort them out myself, it's easier and you know it's been done properly. Get a good one and it will last years, I am hoping my Destroyer will be the same
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Old 07 September 2011, 13:15   #33
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Polwart, yes I was surprised at a one year warranty on the hull but then I know very little about it all, maybe it's the rough type of use they could get, beaching/used by companies etc - not sure!!
I'm out of touch so not sure what the "industry norm" is, but when engine manufacuturers are giving 5yr warranties for leisure use its hard to see why a rib being used as intended cannot get the same. Commercial use would be excluded and beaching damage wouldn't count etc. What you would want is that manufacturing faults were warranted - so e.g. if the transom falls off, or the deck rots because someone didn't seal a fitting, or the whole front falls off in Ferryman style... ...now technically all those things are covered by the sale of goods act and "fit for purpose" so even without the warranty you could have a claim. So why would a rib maker not make that clear? After all the hull is usually the bit that is fine.

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The tubes are bought in so whoever manufactures them backs the warranty. I wish I could find out who makes the tubes, they are bought in by quite a few UK RIB makers apparently.
This quote from their website would seem to contradict that:

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We have always produced our inflation collars in house.
Perhaps you have misunderstood and they buy in the fabric - which will probably come from Pennell. In which case is the 5yr warranty on the fabric (as per Pennell's normal terms) or on the manufacture of the tubes (e.g. glue failing)
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Ah yes your right, I think I must have misunderstood, it's the fabric they probably buy in. I will check on the next call which brings me to another question - sorry. They say you can either have the tube made as one long tube I think or with visible smaller sections which is cheaper. I would opt for visible sections/seams due to cutting the costs It doesn't have to look pretty just ORANGE

Is there a section on the forum about RIB construction it would be interesting to know how tubes are made, how they are attached to the hull etc? Steering installations etc etc

Sorry for all the questions
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Zagato, if you find the "search" button above you will find various rib builds. Likewise if you want something like steering then your should be able to unearth one of many posts on that topic. In terms of tube building then some of the threads will have something but I think there are some videos on Tidel's website (search for Paul Tilley and your should find the address - its something like tidel.biz)
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Thanks again I'll do some digging
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Well it's coming back to a Humber Destroyer each time. The Searider is a wet boat according to Avon and the Destroyer is a dry boat. Ribtec's classic 585's are made in South Africa and according to Ribtec dealers are not as capable as a Destroyer to quote "the Destroyer is a very high bowed boat, very capable and designed for the North Sea whilst our Ribtec is good for coastal although still classed in the class C bracket"

So for me it's going to be a Humber Destroyer, it's made in England, it's more capable or dryer than the other two, I don't mind it being of commercial heritage and I WANT ONE

Interesting also that people say Avon and Humber are like the Land Rover of RIBs, it's a tired cliche for me already but actually Ribtec was started by Maurice Wilks grandson or similar so THEY REALLY ARE THE LR of the sea. Maurice Wilks is the father of the LR series one of course

I am not keen about Ribeye who own the rights to Ribtec shunning the Ribtec sales through a different company either.....I wonder how long Ribtec as a brand will last as they really try to push Ribeye on you instead of Ribtec They make more through Ribeye as they are off the shelf, Ribtec are classed as more commercial and built to order...sounds like the Ribtec will just peter out eventually....
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Polwart, yes I was surprised at a one year warranty on the hull but then I know very little about it all, maybe it's the rough type of use they could get, beaching/used by companies etc - not sure!!
XS Offer 3 Year warranty !! and tubes are made in house too. Check out their vid on youtube, they hide nothing in the construction!!
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Thanks for that much the same spec and price as a Destroyer, I will search for the construction video couldn't see it on their site - that will be interesting Look a very nice bit of kit, I am pretty much sold on a Humber though
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