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Old 31 January 2015, 12:20   #11
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I have done a lot of boating at night on rivers and lakes. My tower had 7 lights mounted on it for night wakeboarding. 5 pointed backwards and two forwards on a different switch. The fronts were rarely used. Their best use was at the dock to light everything up.

The lights mounted in the bow, under the rub rail do work, and the secondary solution is to have someone hold a spot light under the bow so the driver can not see the light source. From above and behind like my tower had does not work, unless you have a shield overhead that blocks the light from hitting anywhere on the boat in front of you.
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Old 31 January 2015, 13:07   #12
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So what do you do when you see the waves coming but have no hand to adjust the throttle?
What it Takes!.... I'm talking about rough seas with no light!..When you HAVE to get IN or HOME!
I hold the wheel and light in my right..and throttle as normal with my left.
Can't stand throttles on the right!...IMO FAR inferior!
It is not ideal...but WILL.HAS ...& does WORK ...better than being totally blind!!
You'll find the light reflects off the Tips/Spume and helps a lot to pick out the Waves...more than relying on night vision...unless there is a decent Moon,or other ambient light.
Helps if you have a decent light with optimum Beam..and not a Flood...at range it broadens out somewhat anyhow.
Try it!

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Old 31 January 2015, 13:51   #13
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What it Takes!.... I'm talking about rough seas with no light!..When you HAVE to get IN or HOME!
I hold the wheel and light in my right..and throttle as normal with my left.
Can't stand throttles on the right!...IMO FAR inferior!
It is not ideal...but WILL.HAS ...& does WORK ...better than being totally blind!!
You'll find the light reflects off the Tips/Spume and helps a lot to pick out the Waves...more than relying on night vision...unless there is a decent Moon,or other ambient light.
Helps if you have a decent light with optimum Beam..and not a Flood...at range it broadens out somewhat anyhow.
Try it!

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Ah I see - I thought you had the wheel in one hand and your lamp in the other. It was inconceivable to me that IN ROUGH WATER you would be able to CONTROL a lamp with a few fingers never mind do so with enough accuracy to stop you loosing night vision. I think it was the Ouzo enquiry which said it takes 9 minutes to get your vision back after even momentary "white light" exposure.

If it works for you though...
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Old 31 January 2015, 14:42   #14
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Nearly. The 9 minutes figure was this:

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The lookout first saw a light from the yacht 9 minutes after entering the wheelhouse.
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... bridge watchkeepers should ... allow time for the handover and, at night, for their eyesight to adapt to the dark. Research has indicated that this period is typically 10 – 15 minutes.
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The dark adaptation curves... can be divided clearly into two components. The first is a rapid decline in threshold over the first 5 – 6 mins. The second component shows a slightly shallower decline from approximately 5 – 6 mins to approximately 20 – 30 mins.
So in fact it's worse than 9 minutes.

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Further investigation on this subject has also revealed that, to all intents and purposes, as soon as a person’s eyes are subjected to white light, their dark adaptation time starts again from zero
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Old 01 February 2015, 09:26   #15
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Learn how to drive your boat blind and feel for waves from the seat of your bum. When you have gained the experience the only time a flashlight wil be any good is slow approaches to unknown harbours. Your all round white should give you enough light in big breaking seas to know what to do. Alan P
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Its funny that the ARW should be mentioned. I painted the forward facing part of my ARW black.
I found the white light from it destroyed night vision, even from just a dinky nav light.
By keeping everything very dark on the boat night vision was actually better.
Its a cumulative thing as well, by having light from the ARW I had to turn up the nav plotters backlight from absolute minimum which caused even more of a problem seeing anything.
Unless you are underground it never gets completely black, there is always some light with properly adapted night vision to see what you are doing, even up in places where there is no light from human sources.
The spotlight on my boat is for final maneouvering at shore only.
On large ships they don't light up the sea in front of them either, all the deck lights get switched off and the bridge darkened.
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I've had to put a bit of black tape on an ARW in the past - same experience as you - it was ruining my night vision. The perceived level of light was such that I'd buy into APs advice - it would show you white wave tops too - if you could avoid seeing the light itself. An overhead ARW would be ace - I must remember that one for again...
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... you would be able to CONTROL a lamp with a few fingers ...

Aye, but don't forget that they breed em with extra fingers where Maxi comes from


.....sh1t happens.......
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Aye, but don't forget that they breed em with extra fingers where Maxi comes from


.....sh1t happens.......
..Don't forget the Webbing too!.....Make headway in a 4knt tide me!
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..Don't forget the Webbing too!.....Make headway in a 4knt tide me!
Jesus and here was me thinking ya just had three hands
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