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Old 05 January 2005, 19:26   #1
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Round UK RIB record attempt

Marcus Gladwell is planning a trip around the the British coast and hopes to set a new record for doing it in the fastest time. He says it will take a week of 13 hour days, and will start from Southwold harbour on May 12th. He'll be doing it in his boat - the Coastal Voyager (9m Cobra(?) RIB with twin Mercury 200 optis). He will use 6000 litres of petrol on his trip, and hopes to raise more than £100,000 for charity.

Good luck to him!

Related website: http://www.coastalvoyager.co.uk/index.php
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Old 06 January 2005, 01:22   #2
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Good luck to him, but the current record stands at just over 33 hours so it's going to take some beating!

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Old 06 January 2005, 02:15   #3
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Whatever about the record...

Hope he enjoys it, does well and raises those funds and awareness for his charity.

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Good luck

We looked at doing this in a rather nice, custom built Shakespeare 9+ metre rib with a pair of Suzi 250's this year. Got a bit "dis-heartened" when we saw that we would have been somewhat over shadowed by a well-heeled attempt in something considerably faster... bummer... oh, well, we might just get the boat built for pleasure use, if things look good this year..
Makes yer eyes water when you calculate how much fuel you'll need to carry/burn...Ouch! we worked on about 6,500 quids worth of yer finest un-leaded.....
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Mmm......33 hours you say.

Thats most odd; I make his trip about 91 hours which as you say is miles away from a record attempt.

I take it your 33 hours is for a RIB.....?
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Old 06 January 2005, 05:00   #6
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Marcus Gladwell is planning a trip around the the British coast and hopes to set a new record for doing it in the fastest time.
Tim, the title of your thread reads 'Round UK RIB record attempt' but the body of your text reads 'a trip around the British coast'. Is this where the confusion over record times has come from? Round UK presumably means a trip round Britain (England, Scotland, Wales) AND Northern Ireland? As JK says, the current world record for circumnavigating Britain in a boat under 30 ft is 33hrs 11mins 4secs, set by Neil McGrigor, Tony Jenvey & Simon Rogers in a twin Yanmar powered Revenger. I have no idea what the record is for circumnavigating the UK, or even if there is an official record! Maybe this could be clarified by someone?

Anway, best of luck to him - it will still be a great achievement. Please keep us updated of his progress once his record attempt begins.
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Indeed Louise; the tittle should read Britain not UK (my mistake!)

Therefore this 33hours thing stands.

I've emailed Mr Gladwell and we shall see what he says.....
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7 days at 13 hours per day?
Cost £6000?

Something not quite right here.
As the distance is less than 1800nmiles thats an average speed of about 20 knots?
At £1/ltr thats 6000 litres. Over 3litres/mile or say 1.6ltres/mile/engine-seems very high?
Finally, if you use a diesel boat (and I have done this twice now) the total fuel cost is well under £900 total, so you could give an extra £5000 plus to your charity.
Or, as is usual, have I got all the above completely wrong?

Bloody good fun though.
Thoroughly recommend it.
Good luck Marcus.
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7 days, and 1400nmiles were the figures he quoted......

But if you dont own a diesal boat.....!

Otherwise yes you are correct!
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I have just looked up the actual RB4 figures for 2001.
Unfortunately I cant get the tabbing to work very well. But bottom line, the as-the-seagull-flies distance was 1534nmiles. This is straight-line. By the time you go up and down and left and right, it it further than this. Anyway this was our rough route that year for what it is worth.

Day Route Distance Cumulative

1 Plymouth-Newlyn-Milford Haven 187.29 187.29
2 Milford Haven-Isle of Man-Bangor (N.I.) 214.07 401.36
3 Bangor-Oban (Penguin Divers)-Kyle of Lochalsh 188.14 589.5
4 Kyle of Lochalsh-Scrabster-Peterhead 242.23 831.73
5 Peterhead-Whitby 193.25 1024.98
6 Whitby-Wells-next-the-Sea 109.74 1134.72
7 Wells-next-the-Sea-Ramsgate 132.42 1267.14
8 Ramsgate-Southampton 131.62 1398.76
9 Southampton-Yarmouth-Salcombe-Plymouth 136.08 1534.84
Total 1534.84
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But if you dont own a diesal boat.....!
Sorry Tim, didn't realise Marcus already had the boat. Thought he was building/hiring/borrowing etc.
One problem (a big one though) that a petrol boat brings, is refueling. The number of marinas with handy petrol pumps at the dockside is quite low.
This boat, with twin 200's sounds like it will hold a bit of fuel and he will need to plan how to refill his tanks.
Without trying to be presumptious, if there is anything I can do to help, please put us in contact.
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Hi Brian
Daft question reguarding the round the country rules, can you refuel at sea
or this outside assistance?
Not quite suggesting RFA's positioned round the coast or refueling whist running but it could save time.
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Hi All,

When we looked at it (not in huge detail, 'cause we lost heart ), we came up with the following figures/schemes/solutions.

1600 ish miles in under 33 hours needs average of 49ish Knots. Using twin petrols, in a 9metre RIB, running pretty much WOT for hours on end, is going to drink enough juice to keep OPEC happy. We "budgeted" on 2 litres/mile/engine, which is pretty much what my single 250 uses WOT plus a little in hand. We looked at big under deck tanks and big on-deck drop tanks with big cross tank feeds and pumps to enable boat balance to be maintained, as we reasoned we would be driving the boat bloody hard and needed all the advantages we could get.
To put the weight into perspective, we (roughly) assumed that we would be using 6 tonnes of fuel. The question of re-fuelling is therefore absolutely essential as you say.
Our plan was to have made (by a well known Midlands fabricator ), a large number of deck tanks of a size that could be man handled full to minimise down time for refuelling (remember we needed a bloody good average speed)
Say we were carrying 2,250 litres under deck, we would have needed another 4,200 litres in tanks. We allowed the maximum size that a tank could be was 150 litres, so that they could have been man handled when full. We thought we’d put 6 on deck at any one time using a system of quick disconnects and mounts plus a lot of valves and pumps! This would give us a requirement for 4 fuelling stops at 790 then every 200 miles or so. We figured to make the stops “hard” against a suitable quay/shore side to facilitate handling a tonne of fuel at a time, rather than “wet” from boat to boat as we were concerned over the logistics. The difficulty of finding “volunteer” to sit on our fuel “stashes” and handle the donkeywork was alarming, but easier than co-ordinating boats!
Even the costs for this amateur attempt, including the assistance from Shakespeare Etc, were pretty great and when someone announced a well backed venture, we decided to let it go…

Good luck to anyone who attempts this record
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Having had a look at the website and seen his boat, perhaps he should advertise the record attempt as the "round uk record attempt in an outboard powered minibus"
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"round uk record attempt in an outboard powered minibus"
Hey Dirk, you forgot to add "with a rubber ring round it"!

Seriously though, it looks like a serious bit of kit for taking passengers on trips.

Edit: interesting to see seat belts are fitted. I guess they're pretty confident the boat won't capsize...
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Just out of interest, given the record is 33 hours and Marcus is talking about doing the trip in 91 hours what record is he hoping to beat.

If he sets up a class of "RIB with most seats in" then he stands a good chance

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Jelly.
It depends what you mean about "record" and "rules".
For a proper understanding, you must consult the RYA (or Alan Priddy). My understanding is that if you go for any "official" record you can only refuel in port at a properly organised refueling station for safety reasons.

But hey, whats all this talk about records?
If Marcus wants to go round and raise money (and enjoy it), bloody good luck to him. He do do whatever he wants and make up his own "rules".
This is, I understand, the purpose of the endeavor.
If your purpose is breaking the official record, then I suggest you start again but with a completely blank sheet of paper!
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I guess this is Marcus's website:
http://www.coastalvoyager.co.uk/index.php
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That'll be the same link timofengland posted in his very first post, Brian.
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Jelly.
But hey, whats all this talk about records?
If Marcus wants to go round and raise money (and enjoy it), bloody good luck to him. He do do whatever he wants and make up his own "rules".
Yeh, I like the sound of that, although I not sure about the "do do" bit. But let me know if he does do do it and I'll send him £20.00. And stick Jono down for a score as well!

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