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Old 06 February 2006, 13:06   #11
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Question: Should he have been punching more into the breakers?

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You could right as im led to believe that they had not long come off the trailer and didnt manage to get enough speed before being hit by waves and were in disturbed seas due to harbour arm.
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Old 06 February 2006, 13:57   #12
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Problem with moving people forward is that bow movement may try to flip them out of the boat.

I suppose it may be debateable whether that is preferential to having the boat flipped, but I think I would prefer neither.

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Old 06 February 2006, 14:26   #13
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lifeboat flip

The breakers here are terrible with a Northerly straight at you, the depth is -3 metres quite frequently and the shallow depth gives the breakers more height the team here were very unlucky as a few more waves it deepens a tad and eases off a little.
I think its amazing that the chaps all went out again as lesser men would have given up.
Just for the record I am not brave enough to have done that launch.
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Old 06 February 2006, 15:09   #14
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They launched at near high water from a tractor and trailler off a semi-sheltered beach in the lee of the harbour.

Where they capsized is about the line of chart datum, so water depth would have been around 5˝ metres. When we get NE gales it draws the waves into a very short, steep dumpy type wave, which are relatively short and pretty destructive.

The Atlantic 21 has now been replaced with an Atlantic 75 and I think these have bow tanks fitted.

Not an easy drive at all heading into those waves, you get very little time to set up ready for the next wave.

I have been out in similar conditions and it wasn't pretty, even for a Searider. Hats off to the guys who are ready to go out in those conditions. They were facing an 8 mile upwind journey to assist some anglers.
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Old 06 February 2006, 15:14   #15
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The Atlantic 21 has now been replaced with an Atlantic 75 and I think these have bow tanks fitted.
Yes they do, with the combined pick-up & dump valve made and supplied by Steve Salmon
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Old 06 February 2006, 15:50   #16
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Flooded ribb

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Many thanks for the clip.

would it have helped if they had flooded the rib?
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Old 06 February 2006, 16:39   #17
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Yes they do, with the combined pick-up & dump valve made and supplied by Steve Salmon
Ah ha, I see the problem! Ready on thursday.
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Old 06 February 2006, 16:52   #18
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Many thanks for the clip.

would it have helped if they had flooded the rib?
Don't know the physics but driving a rib full to the brim is a very strange sensation of surging water as the weight moves slowly arround the boat, Iwould not want to be in those conditions through choice and if I was would not want a boat full of water. As for sending the crew up to the bow the chance of them being able to stay in the boat is slim. and I definatly would not want to be doing an mob in those waves.
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Old 08 February 2006, 15:14   #19
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As Swifty, Mike and Paul have pointed out they were really close to the launch point and going across a shallow bar which runs parellel with the harbour entrance, at low water you can drive a 4x4 right out to the edge of the bar. Once the boat flipped the crew were all thrown clear and it was only the helm who managed to actually get back to the boat, he managed to right it but was unable to board before it beached itself, the crew on the other hand got washed ashore, its just a shame that the guy filming stopped as what happened next would have been almost as good as the boat backing down.
And before anyone says, these guys were experienced locals who know the area, the sea's around our coast and have done this lots of time, on this occassion shit happened as it does sometimes
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Old 08 February 2006, 15:46   #20
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As for sending the crew up to the bow the chance of them being able to stay in the boat is slim. and I definatly would not want to be doing an mob in those waves.
Agree with that one in principle. Suicide seating on an open RIB? (video won't load at the moment!) in bad conditions.

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