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Old 02 October 2009, 08:24   #11
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Its happened again

Are the police inept. All the tools we replaced on the boat have been swagged again. The police know it is going on and they do diddly. In 30 years, nothing stolen, never even thought about the boat on the mooring, now it's constantly in my head.

i wish they had build the marina in beaumaris now, though the "rights" of the poxy mussel fisherman that werent there 10 years ago stopped it. Grrrrrrrrr.

Im going to wait on board, might be a long month or so living on the rib, but would be bloody worth it. I'll have to invest in a cabin redbay so i have some shelter.
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Old 02 October 2009, 10:23   #12
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Sorry to hear about that Paul. Sounds like someone's regularly checking boats to see what's on them.

So the marina at beaumaris came to a halt did it?
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Sorry to hear about that Paul. Sounds like someone's regularly checking boats to see what's on them.

It would appear so, but the police can't see it. Give me a decent cabin rib, funded by the council, minimum wage while i'm on the water and I'll catch the buggers. They have a rib to patrol for idiot jet skiers and speeders by Port Dinorwic. Give it me at night and i'll do it.

So the marina at beaumaris came to a halt did it?
Unfortunately it did. It went on over the last 5 years, they got the grant to build it, but then it went to court because the mussell fisherman said it would infringe their rights to income, fishing etc. They wouldnt accept compensation or anything. Bloody idiots.

The town would have thrived, it would have been a 24hr, fully tidal marina, next to a historic town, with in an hour of chester and liverpool. Conwy is good facility wise, but crap as you can only get in and out for a few hours. Beaumaris has come on leaps and bounds recently s a result of the proposal, with wine bars, delhis, decent restaurants etc but it went all the way to the Welsh assembly in Cardiff and was turned down. What a waste of potential income and jobs for the locals.

My brother in law worked as an external management accountant for North Wales to go and see what spending had occurred on the grants and what income had arisen. He found they had built telesales buildings for millions. On asking why they had spent it on that, as there were no tenants or local businesses to use it, they said they had the money that year and if they hadn't spent it they wouldn't have got any more the next year. It was quickest project they could come up with to utilise the funds. I hate the way Wales is supported in such an uneconomic fashion. Support them fine, but use it wisely and make the most of such a beautiful country. Help the kid's schools or something, not build a bloody telesales complex that isn't used (Cue codders).
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Old 03 October 2009, 08:15   #14
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I know there was talk about it being built when my dad bought his Princess from Conway (but through dickies).
Most council departments have to spend what budget they have before the end of their economic year. If they don't then the year after they are given what they spent the previous year. So they will throw money at something willy nilly just to make sure it's all gone.

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Are the police inept. All the tools we replaced on the boat have been swagged again. The police know it is going on and they do diddly. In 30 years, nothing stolen, never even thought about the boat on the mooring, now it's constantly in my head.

i wish they had build the marina in beaumaris now, though the "rights" of the poxy mussel fisherman that werent there 10 years ago stopped it. Grrrrrrrrr.

Im going to wait on board, might be a long month or so living on the rib, but would be bloody worth it. I'll have to invest in a cabin redbay so i have some shelter.
I realise it must really grate getting stuff nicked - especially when it keeps happening. But do you really think the police would/could/should make this a priority?

Look at it from the point of view of the police management: you left reasonably valuable gear unattended presumbably either unlocked or with minimal security, other than the fact that you needed a boat to get to it. It gets nicked. You replace gear, it gets nicked again (speak to any policeman and he'll tell you that thieves often go back to get the "replacement gear" so this is no surprise). But we are talking a few hundred pounds from each boat. He can't predict exactly when it will get nicked next, so to catch someone he has to sit and watch and wait... perhaps for several days/nights, then to actually aprehend a thief he'll quite possibly need a boat and several officers. Meanwhile those officers are not free for other duties - like dealing with assaults etc which innevitably have to be bigger/more urgent priorities.

The sad reality is if you live in any area thats become a crime hotspot then you, not the police, need to take the steps to prevent being the victim again. So remove valuables from the boat or at least lock them away so that other peoples are easier to nick. If you are leaving a very valuable asset (like your boat) relatively insecure (such as a mooring) it would make sense to invest in the means to reduce the risk to it. Trackers would obviously tell you if the whole boat got nicked - but recently there was someone promoting (on here) a system that had "locker" alarm switches on it too. I guess if you really wanted to catch them (and I would suggest you leave the apprehension bit to Mr Policeman) then you could hide a tracker inside a tool box or fuel tank (probably best not to but fuel in it!) and see where it ends up. I guess you could also have some fun by leaving a fuel tank on the boat that didn't contain petrol... or which was contaminated so their engine would conk out if they used it...
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which was contaminated so their engine would conk out if they used it...

Some of the iboats forum members have done this-favourite being petrol with added brake fluid. If they're putting the fuel in cars the car doesn't last long at all...
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Some of the iboats forum members have done this-favourite being petrol with added brake fluid. If they're putting the fuel in cars the car doesn't last long at all...
I really like that idea. Those with in board tanks could leave a 25l tank on deck. Take the boat out for the day with all your mates and have the deck tank half full of old fuel. Use it as a toilet for the day and then top up water
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I really like that idea. Those with in board tanks could leave a 25l tank on deck. Take the boat out for the day with all your mates and have the deck tank half full of old fuel. Use it as a toilet for the day and then top up water
Nah, do it properly.Water won't do much damage...
Incidentally, sugar won't do permanent damage either.
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Nah, do it properly.Water won't do much damage...
Incidentally, sugar won't do permanent damage either.
SO brake fluid it is then? I'm off to Halfords!

Halfords, sponsors of destroying thieving tw@ts cars on RIBnet.
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SO brake fluid it is then? I'm off to Halfords!

Halfords, sponsors of destroying thieving tw@ts cars on RIBnet.
I can just see the thread, JSP wondering why his engine won't run after using that spare tank of fuel he had on deck!
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