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Old 14 May 2009, 08:37   #21
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You'll actually notice that my 'digging' is mostly in response to Twim's 'bigging'.
Ribeye ribs are not rubbish, but they are a medium vee, mass produced boat of average quality. Ribeye Ribs are not particularly cheap, therefore I don't understand why a buyer would opt for one over and above other brands.

A superior brand with a similar spec and lay out could be bought for similar money and have a stronger residual.
A little bit of advice for you. Read the posts on this thread carefully and learn from them. It'll do you some good.

Another tip is to carefully look at some of your postings a way back (in another name?) which does somwhat contradict your current statement that "Ribeye ribs are not rubbish"

You're in a bit of pickle now aren't you? You'd love to carry on slating them, but realise plenty of people on here either other than me either have them or quite like them.

Best to quieten down now, dont you think?
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Old 14 May 2009, 08:40   #22
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I know the digging - I've seen the original thread!

My budget was £16k for a second hand boat (ideally something with no more than 150 hours and in really nice condition) and I've now revised that budget to maybe £25k for new or very nearly new. I am not going to drive to Ireland to get one either.

Strictly leisure - nice weather only, with the family.

6m is ideal, 6.5 slightly better still. Jockeys up front, bench at the back - 4 stroke engine.

If that was the criteria (which it is) what else should I look at?

I've seen a Cobra Nautique in Anglesey that looks interesting....

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With a £25k budget, you have plenty of options. Perhaps you're stereotyping brands a little. Most manufacters build to a customers spec'. If this is inclined towards the leisure end of the market, that's how it's fitted out. Stripy,squidgy seats can be fitted to any hull type.
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Old 14 May 2009, 08:44   #23
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Are there particular RIB manufacturers you recommend I look at?
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I am not going to drive to Ireland to get one either.
No-one does!
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Old 14 May 2009, 08:56   #25
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Here you go, been forsale for a while so you could chip him on the price

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F183219

Even Mollers would like this one
I've sent them an email..... thanks for the spot.

7.5 is a big boat for a first-timer maybe?
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Old 14 May 2009, 08:59   #26
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Are there particular RIB manufacturers you recommend I look at?
Cobra.
Scorpion.
Ribtec.
Some Ribcraft and Osprey Ribs come in squidgy spec.
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Old 14 May 2009, 09:38   #27
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There's a Cobra here (although it's miles away)

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F199618

Nice engine....
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There's a Cobra here (although it's miles away)

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F199618

Nice engine....
Yep, nice rig. You might prefer a 4stroke being a leesurely kinda guy.
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Old 14 May 2009, 10:22   #29
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Yes my preference is for 4 stroke - but I'm not going to add to the fathomless pit of debate on 4 or 2!
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There's a Cobra here (although it's miles away)

http://www.boatsandoutboards.co.uk/view/F199618

Nice engine....
Seen that before, isn't it someone from here

Here you go post 5

http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?...ighlight=cobra
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Old 14 May 2009, 11:16   #31
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Yes my preference is for 4 stroke - but I'm not going to add to the fathomless pit of debate on 4 or 2!
No please dont as you will have leapy breaking out more maybe even his jumbo pack

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Old 14 May 2009, 12:16   #32
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Revengers have a very deep V hull - they give an amazing ride in the rough but of course the deeper the V the more power you need to drive it and hence the more fuel you use.

A flatter V will be more easily driven so will be better in calm waters but in a chop will give a harder ride.

Revengers also seem to be bullet proof - some of the Norwegian Fjord rafting people use them and they haven't managed to break one yet - and they give them some stick.

I would say the Ribeye is more on a level with a Cobra - good family boat for normal trips - will handle rough weather but not with the comfort of some others.
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Most RIB manufacturers use the same basic hull shape for different models and different sizes (the most obvious exception to the rule being Humber who used to have several different hull profiles - Assault, Attaque, Ocean Pro, etc...). Ribeyes I've seen have different hull shapes for different sizes. This makes any generalisation about their comfort and performance completely pointless without specifying which model and size.
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Old 14 May 2009, 15:35   #34
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Revengers have a very deep V hull - they give an amazing ride in the rough but of course the deeper the V the more power you need to drive it and hence the more fuel you use.

A flatter V will be more easily driven so will be better in calm waters but in a chop will give a harder ride.

Revengers also seem to be bullet proof - some of the Norwegian Fjord rafting people use them and they haven't managed to break one yet - and they give them some stick.

I would say the Ribeye is more on a level with a Cobra - good family boat for normal trips - will handle rough weather but not with the comfort of some others.
That's an interesting summary - thanks....

I went over to Ballistic today and had a look at their 6.5, nice looking boats, completely built in South Africa - they arrive shrink wrapped in the UK. Quite pricey, but I liked the layout.
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I remember buying an Aston a while back and there was a group of sad die-hards at the AMOC who basically said if it wasn't a V8 built in 1982 by men with hammers called Derek it wasn't really a proper Aston;
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Revengers have a very deep V hull - they give an amazing ride in the rough but of course the deeper the V the more power you need to drive it and hence the more fuel you use.

A flatter V will be more easily driven so will be better in calm waters but in a chop will give a harder ride.

Revengers also seem to be bullet proof - some of the Norwegian Fjord rafting people use them and they haven't managed to break one yet - and they give them some stick.

I would say the Ribeye is more on a level with a Cobra - good family boat for normal trips - will handle rough weather but not with the comfort of some others.
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Okay you explain it better then - or is that the best you can come up with???
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Okay you explain it better then - or is that the best you can come up with???
I think that Codprawn missed one important point that is not obvious from his post.

The fact that when Sea conditions get bad, the "FAST" RIB's are the ones with the deep V's

Deep V = Confidence
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I think that Codprawn missed one important point that is not obvious from his post.

The fact that when Sea conditions get bad, the "FAST" RIB's are the ones with the deep V's

Deep V = Confidence
I thought I had covered that???

The thing is a lot of people will only go out on a nice day and then a deep V can be a bit of a liability. A flat bottom = less power needed - higher top speed and less fuel used.

I would never consider such a boat but a lot of people will.

And to be honest RIBs ike Cobras and Ribeyes are still a medium V - not that flat when compared with many modern sportsboats - I would rather be out in a RIbeye in a force 6 than some Bayliners, Rinkers or Maxums.
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