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Old 23 February 2011, 14:29   #11
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Once the flanges had all of their strips bonded, we glued on the hull. This involved pre-placing it onto the hull, making some alignment marks, and getting a few friends to help. We applied three layers of glue to each side and waited quite a while to let the glue almost dry. Making tape was used liberally to prevent any glue from getting into the C-strip on the hull flange, and also to keep it all neat. When ready for bonding, we carefully raised the hull over the boat, wiped both sides with copious amounts of Toluene, took a deep breath and stuck it in place. overall, we ended up being about 1/2" off our original alignment marks, so there is room for improvement, but I am pretty happy with it (at least we got the right side up...)
Also, it's important to start at the bow and work towards the transom in case of misalignment...
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Old 23 February 2011, 14:33   #12
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These photos show the transom connection. I was unsure of how to do it as my old tubes were a complete patchwork of old repairs in this area. We decided to go with Paul's suggestion of 25mm darts, and templated this strip with paper ahead of time. Then usind double-sided tape, we stuck the piece to the transom, re-applied glue to the darts and stuck them onto the tube one-by-one. There will be another piece to cover it all up...
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Old 23 February 2011, 18:51   #13
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Here are a few links I found useful:
http://www.ekensnaval.com/default.as...22&Language=sv
http://www.avonsearider.co.uk/avon_s...ject_page1.php
http://www.avonsearider.co.uk/avon_s...ube_design.php
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ole its good to see you are doing such an excellant job fitting the tubes .regards paul
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Old 07 April 2011, 17:40   #15
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Tubes are finally installed!
I didn't take very good photos of the last steps, but will attempt to describe what I learned:
Transom Reinforcement:
Additional pieces were cut and glued over the two original reinforcement bits. Before gluing the overlap pieces in place, I did a little back-filling with Sikaflex, not with any structural aspirations, but rather to avoid having any hollow places for water to accumulate. Overall, the pieces all went together quite well.
Underside Strips:
To deal with the step from the underside flange onto the tube, I pulled a wide popstickle (~10mm radius) fillet with sikaflex. This was a bit of a pain as it required more taping off and cleanup but made a nice and smooth transition without sacrificing much bonding area on the tube. These strips went on pretty easily although I continue to be amazed just how long this process takes. It seems like gluing on a few strips should take an hour or so when it actually took two more days...
Same deal, marking, taping off, applying 3 layers of glue to each side (thinning the glue with Toluene made this much easier).
Someone recommended trimming back the cheap-o brushes to 1/2 length for spreading the glue which worked quite well except for the inability of the brush to carry much glue when applying overhead.
Once the 6 underside strips were applied (starting at the transom for the correct overlap), I templated and cut another patch to overlap the bow strips. I have come across two stories of failure in this area from slamming into waves, so I made this patch rather large and took a lot of care bonding it down. The fiberglass flange was actually broken on my boat so when I re-built it, I staggered in a few extra layers.
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Old 07 April 2011, 17:48   #16
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rub-rail

So far, I have only glued on one continuous strip of rub-rail all around the tubes. Again, pretty straightforward. Prepping the tubes and rubrail took a little while but I have got a new 6" large stroke DeWalt orbital sander which works well with 60-grit on the tubes and even 40-grit on the rubrail. Starting at the port-side transom, we worked in about 6'ft increments, using aluminum foil on the tubes to create a working area for applying glue to the rail w/o getting it onto the tubes. A lot of pressure in the tubes helped getting the rail down, especially around the bow, and some careful trimming around the transom made for a nice and clean end. I think the most difficult thing about this process is taking the time to clean off excess glue on the tubes since there has to be a slightly larger area prepped on the tubes to give some tolerance when sticking the rail down.
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Old 11 October 2011, 20:53   #18
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One more note regarding the rubrail:
I had issues with rubrail separating from the tubes bear the transom where they are submerged part of the time and see a lot of spray. After three clean-ups and re-gluing sessions, i switched to stabond adhesive from the NRS hypalon glue. That works much better as the rubrail is not hypalon.
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Hi, I met you/admired your boat in CI harbor by the boat yard about 1 1/2 years ago (I am a harbor patrol officer). Anyway, I just bought a searider 5.4 of my own and would appreciate the chance to show it to you and talk projects. 805-766-6209. Click image for larger version

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