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Old 14 February 2007, 18:40   #11
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The point I was trying to make is that we always seemed to manage with the laws we had - now Tony is here to help us with his 3,000 new laws things are going downhill fast.

The whole reason these yobs behave the way they do is because they can - so many new laws brought in people are afraid to tackle them in case they get into hot water. Also the Police are too busy dealing with all this new legislation to do any real work.

Less laws would remove the shackles that prevent decent people tackling the yobs the way they used to be able to!!!
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Codders, I agree with you 100%.

STFU about it please though-you're beginning to be a bit of a stuck record.

It shows that it's winter.
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Old 14 February 2007, 19:21   #13
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Codders, I agree with you 100%.

STFU about it please though-you're beginning to be a bit of a stuck record.

It shows that it's winter.
Nice day today though - just wish I hadn't been working - even the tides were right.
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WMM these seem to apply in the situation where injury is incurred. The "new" law would (to me) appear to cover any obstruction rather than focus purely on physical injury (or e.g. damage to vehicles, which would also be covered under existing laws).

I don't know - but I suspect the penalties under this act may be more severe than for a similar offence not prosecuted under the act? just as assaulting a police officer carries a greater punishment than assaulting me.
Absolutely. The new legislation is broadly worded to allow all sorts of things to be brought to court.

However, in Scotland (where is has been in force for much longer) they have had difficulties in securing evidence for "on the road" staff, much easier for "in-hospital" staff where they are covered by CCTV.

Personally, I feel this act would be a bit of a "last ditch" resort by the CPS, if they couldn't get anything else to stick; and barristers will still argue about the wording of statutes it's what they're paid to do!

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Summary offence only- scale 5 fine no imprisonment
whats scale 5 these days? WMM will know.
A level 5 fine is a measly £5,000.

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