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Old 26 December 2006, 13:36   #11
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We were training for recovering divers in Poole a couple of weeks ago.

note pic 2 is chucking him back in the water not getting him out.

If your unsure of the method at the top of the thread, try it sometime, it works well with one person or two in the boat, just use your weight and dont try to hard or they will go out the otherside of the boat.
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Old 26 December 2006, 21:53   #12
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Get out of the water easily guaranteed

If you really want to recover someone fairly easily here is the perfect boat for that task, I had a 20 cat like this and the ramp is really handy for divers or the kids getting back on board from swimming. Someone ought to think about building something similar across the pond, it works very well.
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Old 27 December 2006, 08:20   #13
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Seems approiate seeing that you are talking about man over board drills and have included some photos there. One interesting thing I would pick up on is why neither of the crew in the boat are wearing a bouyancy aid or lifejacket. If either of these 2 had gone overboard in the current conditions, they would not have long in the water with tempertaures at the moment, before hyperthemia setting in and would have trouble staying afloat. At least if they had one on then they would have some bouyancy provided.

A golden rule that I teach and all other instructors that I know teach, that is before going on the water, you must be wearing either a lifejacket or bouyancy aid depending on what activity you are doing.

Seems like these crew need to be advised to wear some form of flotation,and would have expected that you would have insited that they wear something before stepping foot in your boat.

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Old 27 December 2006, 08:46   #14
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Personally, I think the best first course of action for a solo aid provider (assuming difficulty in getting the victim back onboard), would be to get on the VHF and yell for help. You wouldn't want them going overboard as well, or getting injured in the recovery.
I believe that there is a lot to be said for this. As for using the tilt on the engine, while that might haul an unconscious person up, there is no way that my SO could get me into the boat from there (around the A frame etc.)

Jono, I didn't meant to sound as though I was poo-pooing your method. I have not tried it and will next season. I suppose I am guilty of hi-jacking this thread as my paticular concern is to do with a light-weight crew hauling a lard-ass, unconscious diver into the boat!

I also appreciate that no one has begun lecturing me on the evils of diving on my own. That has not always been the case in diving forums!
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I also appreciate that no one has begun lecturing me on the evils of diving on my own. That has not always been the case in diving forums! [/QUOTE]

Lectured for diving by yourself? I appreciate the value of having a buddy while diving but I used to dive alone frequently by myself and never felt threatened or like I was doing anything particularly "risky". When you look at activities like sky diving, free-solo rock climbing or base jumping in comparision scuba is pretty tame.

The bottom line in mob procedures is to get very familiar with a method, any method that works for you and be ready to perform it in a emergency. All of us have had to pull someone out of the drink from time to time, it is just a little harder from a rib than boats equipped with swim platform.
Design in some safety features to your boat if you have that option to make boarding easier, I built a outboard bracket, the boat is easy to board for most people. Your passengers are your responsibility...
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I must say laser is spot on.
In one set of pics not one life jacket (one BA on the one in the water) then when doing drills with the RNLI, all have to wear them ! (for good reason).

In my boats you are not insured unless you are wearing one and all my instrs/skippers have to wear one at all the times.

Good spot.
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Wasn't my boat so I cant rule the use of life jackets, the pictures were taken from one of my boats.

However nice to see your input on the subject rather than just being picky about the photos, not.

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It's a good technique developed on the Isle of Wight by the RNLI and is used in the safety boat course .It's another option we have in recovering a MOB .
I personally would not have wanted the other two guy's to be in the picture as no life jackets/pfd on, and not exactly advertising best practice even if it is not your boat .
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However nice to see your input on the subject rather than just being picky about the photos, not.
Seems like fair comment to me really - if you post "how to..." pictures you are opening yourself to criticism from people who spot deficiencies...
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Old 27 December 2006, 14:04   #20
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My point was I,m not posting about driving in fog or someone wrapping my desk in paper, just posting some pics to help people, if they end up in this situation another of way easily getting someone back in the boat.

I agree every one is free to criticise, however its just discouraging people from posting useful info.

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