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Old 24 December 2008, 08:37   #11
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If you use this cable tie method, how do you prevent them breaking and releasing the anchor after it is buried and the wind changes direction?
If you have enough scope out the pull should be fairly horizontal - even more so if you use an angel.
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Old 24 December 2008, 08:53   #12
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If you have enough scope out the pull should be fairly horizontal - even more so if you use an angel.
are you not assuming that the anchor is actually pretty free to move. If the anchor is well dug in will the chain not just drift over the the top of it?

IF THE ANCHOR IS NOT SET HARD:
With a shackle at the stock this might break the anchor out but you then expect it to reset in the opposite direction. Likewise with some really tough cable ties.

BUT IF THE ANCHOR IS STUCK HARD:
With a shackle on the stock you just stay where you were - but with cable ties you risk them breaking which moves the load on the anchor to the "head" and breaks it out - but it is then unable to reset itself as the pull is not on the stock.
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I agree I wouldn't use cable ties in bad conditions but for day to day use they are fine.
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I tend to just pull it by hand . Only one occasion when this was bloody hard work was when I had the full length out & no one to nudge the boat forward to take the pressure off the line.

By the end of the whole effort I was knackered , wet & could only just get to the throttle in time to stop me going backwards !

On my 4m its easy as its a light boat & anchore - 7.5 is alot harder !
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anchoring

not arguing with anybody today, done it with cable ties or light rope for nearly 40 years and my dad was doing before me and this method has never let me down and i have never lost an anchor, just lucky i guess
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been using cable ties for years, but I use several cable ties also
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hightower;

I pull by hand. Start motor, idle forward while pulling in slack. You'll feel when you start to pick up chain, then you quicken the recovery (pulling) pace a bit, and hopefully pick the anchor up out whetever it was set in just as you cross over it. Set the motor back to neutral, and pull the hook the rest of the way up.

You generally do not want to try and pull the anchor without motoring forward, lest the hook short-scope and drag into something that you would have a tough time releasing from.

I've seen a couple of guys use the buoy method; it never seemed all that much easier to me.

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hightower;

I pull by hand. Start motor, idle forward while pulling in slack. You'll feel when you start to pick up chain, then you quicken the recovery (pulling) pace a bit, and hopefully pick the anchor up out whetever it was set in just as you cross over it. Set the motor back to neutral, and pull the hook the rest of the way up.

You generally do not want to try and pull the anchor without motoring forward, lest the hook short-scope and drag into something that you would have a tough time releasing from.

I've seen a couple of guys use the buoy method; it never seemed all that much easier to me.

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To be honest if I were anchored in 10m or so of water I would pull in by hand. However I am going to try some deeper marks 30 meters or more and the thought of pulling an anchor and chain up that distance makes my muscles quiver.
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My grapnel is a piece of 2" solid bar with 10m of chain attached, the anchor is a 7.5kg Bruce with 10m of chain attached. You do not want to hand lift this from 50m plus
Also when lifting shots after trimix dives, or any other for that matter, you don't want to exert yourself.
Using an Aldernoy rig or something similiar like the system I use is muuch easier although if it is just a lunch stop in a few metres I tend to pull the few meters up by hand myself........
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Yes, Alderney ring ( home made ), chain and cable ties. I , however, always anchor off the bow eye. Two reasons, transome tying call pull the boat's rear too low when on a hard pull and rope near prop can be bad news. All FWIIW.
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