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Old 11 May 2007, 15:43   #11
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I don't disagree, but whilst the RIB manufacturers continue to portray Ribbing as a family pursuit, I don't think its unreasonable to suggest that potential family buyers may wish to shop as a 'family' and include their children in the buying process. I can't see buyers travelling great distances if there son/ daughter has their GCSE's/ A levels/ Uni exams in the following week.
I never had much input into my parents buying decisions (maybe thats why they don't have a rib ) - and they wouldn't have thought twice about leaving me to get on with passing my exams by myself...
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What was new? How is the industry developing? Or is the show really only for newbies and the rich?
New Engines and Electronics - Ribs Solent 9 metre , Zar ribs Ribex Exige
Scopions cabin rib Stingher new model's Ceasar Ribs ,Parker Ribs new models (I think) new dock lifts to name a couple of things I noticed but I only had a quick look around .
Show is for anyone interested in all the above and ribs there to suit all pockets and levels of experience. There are lots of new features on the Solent compared to a couple of years ago new console on the 6.5 as there are on many of the other Ribs .
Sorry you felt disappointed by it .
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Old 11 May 2007, 15:48   #13
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because the enthusiast market isnt a profitable enough segment for either ribs or landrovers. LR arent interested in customers who tinker/improve/restore/rennovate their cars, they want those who dont have the time or inclination to do that and are happy to part with 1000 for a service each time its due, then upgrade to a new LR every 2/3 years. Other than the very niche builders, it would appear to be the same for ribs..to remain competitive requires volume and the volume just isnt there amongst "enthusiasts".
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Old 11 May 2007, 15:48   #14
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I never had much input into my parents buying decisions (maybe thats why they don't have a rib ) - and they wouldn't have thought twice about leaving me to get on with passing my exams by myself...
Well my parents would never buy something intended for family consumption without first consulting the whole family. It would be like buying a people carrier but not checking the pushchair fitted in first.
I have no problem passing exams, thats why im still in education at nearly 20.
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Old 11 May 2007, 15:49   #15
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No sea trials. Paul (of Poweboat Training) and JK's view was that most people had decidied taking boats out in the inclement weather would put newbies and wives off their possible purchases.

This seems a daft logic. The whole point of a rib is to be safe when shit happens. I have been in a F5/F6 SW approaching the Needles from the south going round the island clockwise. Three 16 year olds with me at Christmas tern half term. OK, probably should not have gone east from Cowes, but it seemed ok then. Forecast was F4 SW. By the time we got round St Catherine's, which was interesting but not really demanding - my 16 year old helmed - we were wet and a little gloomy. Lymington beckoned. Yes, perhpas I should have turned round. I took over the helm and had a challenging (never remotely life threatening) 10 minutes and the boat handled like a dream. Once across the bridge with a following sea, fairly raced home.

Today outside Cowes was nothing like as bad. And there were punters like me who would have liked to see how the offerings coped in classical messy chop with the odd bigger wave.

But no one offered.

Let us face it, I don't look rich enough, or scruffy enougfh, or hang out enough with the 'right' people....
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Old 11 May 2007, 15:50   #16
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Bruce - if you are looking for "serious" cabin ribs - I believe Redbay (who are not at Ribex) will be at Seawork... ...they will have a boat afloat.

I wonder if the way to get treated "seriously" is to call the company a week or two before have a serious discussion and arrange to meet them at the show for a trial.

I completely understand your point (and its not restricted to RIBs - I am just back from a tradeshow in a completely different sector) - but one of the challenges is isolating the many people who aren't serious buyers, from those who are.
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OK, perhpas it is because I live in Lymington. Saw the Scorp cabin last autumn.

Not convinced there is anything really new as in innovative in engines or electronics - please tell me where I am wrong.

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New Engines and Electronics - Ribs Solent 9 metre , Zar ribs Ribex Exige
Scopions cabin rib Stingher new model's Ceasar Ribs ,Parker Ribs new models (I think) new dock lifts to name a couple of things I noticed but I only had a quick look around .
Show is for anyone interested in all the above and ribs there to suit all pockets and levels of experience. There are lots of new features on the Solent compared to a couple of years ago new console on the 6.5 as there are on many of the other Ribs .
Sorry you felt disappointed by it .
Saw Zar last year, but not the big one with the bimini which I mentioned. Saw Caesar last year - ? SBS. Exige.... how really NEW??

New models - yes as in layout and styling, but new as in something genuinely innovative??

Not much in sub 6.5m I think.... actually sub 7, but perhaps I was wrong.

Yeah, Solent, interesting new console, and nice to see the new 9m. But is a redesigned console real innovation? Putting a bow thruster in is, and I mentioned it.

I do not deny people are making constant step wise improvements. But that is not radical innovation......
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I completely understand your point (and its not restricted to RIBs - I am just back from a tradeshow in a completely different sector) - but one of the challenges is isolating the many people who aren't serious buyers, from those who are.
But there weren't many people. It was dead. I was a buyer. So no excuses there. Redbay is a sort of different type of cabin.....
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But there weren't many people. It was dead. I was a buyer. So no excuses there. Redbay is a sort of different type of cabin.....
Bruce - not trying to justify it - but at tradeshows when it is dead - it can actually be harder to sort the wheat from the chaff - most of the people wondering aimlessly are competitors (or in the trade at least). If people know you were following your own rib venture recently - then they are less likely to expect you to be interested in buying theirs...
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Totally agree Bruce. Best treatment I have ever had at a boatshow was from Sunseeker at the Southampton show. The most expensive boat there (4.5million) and we were treated like royalty.

The worst treatment was by Scorpion at RIBEX - had money in the bank ready to buy a RIB and they wouldn't give me the time of day.

I have also noticed that the richer people are the more down to Earth they are. The people with the biggest boats in the marina tend to be the most approachable. It's the people pretending to be something they are not that I can't stand.
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