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Old 04 June 2013, 16:39   #61
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What rule does my last post offend?
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Old 04 June 2013, 16:40   #62
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Have to agree with you Willk , I can enjoy the debate but abrasiveness & occasional rudeness do nothing to further anyones cause !!
I enjoy the sarcasm that sometimes occurs and it's a great site for anyone interested in all things boaty but I'm pleased when the powers that be step in to douse things down.
Got to agree with you wholeheartedly!!

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Old 04 June 2013, 16:41   #63
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Personally I think there are very many people on here, many who by virtue of their status, should know how to treat people when they have a difference of opinion.

I cannot think of another forum that I have ever frequented where there has been such an niche group of people who only think their opinion counts and everyone else's is either wrong, 'naughty' or not worth the server space.

The sexist, childish and often highly abusive comments from some members really do not make this forum a nice place to frequent. The only reason why I frequent is that there are some useful information posted by some really helpful people.

Grow up, have a big long hard look at how some of your and peers comments are being viewed by other members of the public not so involved with the site and maybe this forum would feel more welcoming to outsiders. Other people have equally valid points of view and deserve an equal opportunity to air their views without a torrent of abuse in return.

If I spoke to people at work like people speak to people on here, it would be gross misconduct. Kid yourself that its sarcasm, its not.

You can ban me now...
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Old 04 June 2013, 17:05   #64
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As I said, the numerous naysayers on here, including particularly the two whose post precede this, are a disgrace. My opinion, validly expressed. Is it going to be censored?
Censored? Never unless you become abusive, or you continue ranting without actually reading the thread.
You're getting pretty close to it as you've either BLATANTLY misunderstood what's been said to you, or haven't read the thread.

Go and read the thread properly and stop ranting, then slowly and rationally write a post explaining what you think I'm saying.
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Old 04 June 2013, 17:07   #65
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Personally I think there are very many people on here, many who by virtue of their status, should know how to treat people when they have a difference of opinion.
Don't quite follow that?
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I cannot think of another forum that I have ever frequented where there has been such an niche group of people who only think their opinion counts and everyone else's is either wrong, 'naughty' or not worth the server space.
You've been VERY lucky on the other (non-ribby) forums - some of them are quite bloody
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The sexist, childish and often highly abusive comments from some members really do not make this forum a nice place to frequent. The only reason why I frequent is that there are some useful information posted by some really helpful people.
I think you use the forum because you like it.
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Grow up, have a big long hard look at how some of your and peers comments are being viewed by other members of the public not so involved with the site and maybe this forum would feel more welcoming to outsiders. Other people have equally valid points of view and deserve an equal opportunity to air their views without a torrent of abuse in return.
RIBnet isn't wikipedia, it's a little bit wikipedia, a little bit forum, a little bit chatroom. My intervention in this thread is to prevent a torrent of abuse.
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If I spoke to people at work like people speak to people on here, it would be gross misconduct. Kid yourself that its sarcasm, its not.
Don't quite follow that either, how is your work code of conduct relevant here?
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You can ban me now...
Lord no, you're staying, at least until you ask to have your account deleted again.
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Old 04 June 2013, 17:10   #66
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... Takes me back a few posts ...

"... and when a proven, reliable, stable, durable and practical improvement comes along I will embrace it totally, as I'm sure will the vast majority of folks on this forum"
If I wasn't a diver putting the transmitter in a drysuit pocket which is going to get far more than dunked I would try it. I need an unpowered, fully submersible (to at least 50m) "fob" for the me with all powered bits inside the console.

Right now I have very limited options to clip on my existing kill cord. I'm in a drysuit, I can't sink without at least 10kgs of lead on me. And I don't have special life jackets whch can fit over drysuits. So I currently girth hitch the cord around my wrist just proximal (up my arm) from my dry glove rings. The rings are hard plastic and 5" or so in diameter so it doesn't want to slip off. But I have to remember and remove it before helping any of my passenger divers around the boat (or back in), or to anchor.

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Personally I think there are very many people on here, many who by virtue of their status, should know how to treat people when they have a difference of opinion.

I cannot think of another forum that I have ever frequented where there has been such an niche group of people who only think their opinion counts and everyone else's is either wrong, 'naughty' or not worth the server space.

The sexist, childish and often highly abusive comments from some members really do not make this forum a nice place to frequent. The only reason why I frequent is that there are some useful information posted by some really helpful people.

Grow up, have a big long hard look at how some of your and peers comments are being viewed by other members of the public not so involved with the site and maybe this forum would feel more welcoming to outsiders. Other people have equally valid points of view and deserve an equal opportunity to air their views without a torrent of abuse in return.

If I spoke to people at work like people speak to people on here, it would be gross misconduct. Kid yourself that its sarcasm, its not.

You can ban me now...
^^^^^^
What he said.

Pretty much everyone here has just pissed on GPIC, despite his good intentions and extensive efforts to advance dialogue with alternative kill cords. Efforts which are far more lastly and meaningful than sending me polls asking if I want mandatory kill cord legislation in the UK - despite the fact that I live near Seattle, half a word away...
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An extract of quotes from this thread, disregarding ones on similar topic:

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90% of the accidents either happened outside the UK, were totally irrelevant to this discussion or contain such tenuous links to propellers that they are even irrelevant to the document itself.
Care to justify the "90%"?

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Once you remove all the non-killcord related things, plus the above, there's very little there.
Complacent (synonym = "self-satisfied")

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I suspect from a quick skim that there are few kill cord preventable accidents in UK waters - which is the point about new kill cord rules being largely pointless
As above

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The collective brains trust on this forum - or anywhere else as I've noticed - hasn't identified a more stable, reliable and durable solution than that which currently exists
40 yo technology simply can't be improved. No way.

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there is a perfectly good solution, called the kill cord
How is it "perfectly" good when, as a system (not as a mechanism) it has actually failed in numerous cases?

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I just don't understand what's wrong with a killcord
As a system, they're not working. Gettit?

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It's pointless trying to make anything idiot proof
Oh so it's pointless. Is it really? Why?

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my scream detector is going off
Cheap point scoring.

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I've tried to avoid the whole killcord debate, as it's a circular argument & in the end Darwin always wins.
There is no language of argument here. Just fatuous comment.

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I find it quite incredible that an entire organisation who have done that much research comes up with a list of complete and utter rubbish! I won't even dignify your list with reasons
Astonishing. So this poster dismisses all suggestions out of hand without any explanation whatsoever.

Do you sense that I am contemptuous of the RIBNET massive, with some (unhappily few) honourable exceptions? You bet!
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Coupled with your "blind & stupid "comment on the bottom of page three this is now sounding like a rant !
Do you really speak to people like that at work or socially Tim ?
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Coupled with your "blind & stupid "comment on the bottom of page three this is now sounding like a rant !
Do you really speak to people like that at work or socially Tim ?
That was a direct response to:

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I find it quite incredible that an entire organisation who have done that much research comes up with a list of complete and utter rubbish! I won't even dignify your list with reasons that none of them will work as you will obviously disagree.
and the smug/complacent/self-satisfied rejoinder to my rebuke that as a long-time RIB and other leisure boats owner, and as an ordinary commentator, I feel completely entitled to express.

Do you wish to defend the post I responded to?
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Observer.. Tim, for goodness sake what are you like when you're out in the pub you just go on and on and on
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