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Old 09 June 2005, 18:06   #11
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Strictly speaking, it's a legal requirement for any RIB, in fact any craft putting to sea!
This confuses me. I read this somewhere (SOLAS regs?) - my take on it was that is the boat is small (can't remember the exactl length now) you had to have one if it was "practicle" to do so. Now, for me, without an A frame, it isn't really without it being terribly in the way on the transform (won't work in any case). Who decides what is practicle, and could I get sued or otherwise screwed over if I had an accident becasue say a big ship couldnt see me?
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Old 09 June 2005, 18:10   #12
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You're right.

The definition of "practical" in this scenario is anyone's guess. It's agruable that it would be "practical" to fit an A-frame to your RIB...

Actually, to be pedantic, the word that they use is "practicable"!

Check out: http://www.mcga.gov.uk/c4mca/solas.pdf
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Definintion of practicable: "capable of being done with means at hand and circumstances as they are" and "capable of performing in accordance with applicable specifications, available at a reasonable price and within a reasonable period of time"
which implies to me that I can reasonably use my boat at sea without a reflector....
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Only really big reflectors seem to work ok - many are just a token effort - so what is the point? They would probably condemn you if you DIDN'T have one fitted but what about a crap one??? Just goes to show token efforts are more important than common sense!!!
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I think the issue here is that being seen is to your advantage what ever the law says, so by fitting a token reflector it is only you who will suffer. If you read the test reports on reflectors you’ll see that the basic catch rain reflectors perform well for the money and one of these fitted to a pole on the transom would be a very cost effective solution Des
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Most of the small cheaper reflectors are useless, however fitting one satisfies the requirements to fit one and in the event of an accident and/or insurance claim keeps you on the right side of the regs.
For the size of RIB's I would ever own the large effective ones are far too large and expensive so keeping a good lookout is a better option especially considering that relying on a radar watch on a large ship to stop something running over you is not the most reliable method there is.
Next boat will probably have a see-me but I am not convinced totally by any active system as yet, how would you know it was working?
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Most of the small cheaper reflectors are useless, however fitting one satisfies the requirements to fit one and in the event of an accident and/or insurance claim keeps you on the right side of the regs.
For the size of RIB's I would ever own the large effective ones are far too large and expensive so keeping a good lookout is a better option especially considering that relying on a radar watch on a large ship to stop something running over you is not the most reliable method there is.
Next boat will probably have a see-me but I am not convinced totally by any active system as yet, how would you know it was working?
Actually the see mee has a warning light or buzzer to let you know when it is "painted" - useful because it lets YOU know about other ships in the area!!!

It is so typical of this day and age - as long as you fit one you will be ok - even if they are totally unsuitable and don't work!!!

I think I will go for the tri lens from Viking - easy to mount on an A frame and not too expensive at £120 - also happens to work pretty well. Had fun trying to find one but these seem to sell them:

http://www.marine-super-store.com/po...der=4&format=2
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