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Old 17 November 2009, 06:13   #51
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ouch. intresting read though.
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Old 17 November 2009, 11:24   #52
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One of our Scottish members said it was hard to imagine how dark it gets around the waters where this accident took place.
I can walk exactly 10 feet from my front door and I can see the milky way on a cloudless night and I live in the town itself.
Imagine just how much darker it is if I walk 1 mile! The effect of light pollution is cumlative and even with a streetlight 20 feet away I can still see the milky way as the are is generally dark and there is no "halo" effect from thousands of lights!
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Old 17 November 2009, 12:48   #53
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I can walk exactly 10 feet from my front door and I can see the milky way on a cloudless night
At the risk of turning this thread into a game of Ribnet Gamesmanship, have a dekko at the light pollution map below. That nice black void in the NW corner of Ireland. Home . When I leave the house at night without yard lights on, I run the risk of walking into a parked car or Rib. Tubes good, skegs bad. The flip side is the clear nights when the full moon shines. Then the entire valley below is illuminated and you can see for miles.

A certain city based Ribnobber spent a couple of nights in the house. He mentioned trouble sleeping. Concerned, I asked why? (thinking Cold? Hard Mattress? Cat bring him a Mouse?

"Too quiet, I could only hear my circulation while trying to sleep"

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Old 17 November 2009, 13:03   #54
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Wrong city. More chance of it being Mollers
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Just noticed this case coming up, was reported in the Oban Times.

Skipper 'killed diver by running boat aground while drunk' | Glasgow and West | STV News
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I was going to keep out of this thread, as I met these guys the day before the accident and had a very pleasant chat with them. I don't want to get drawn into the discussion about drinking and driving - that is surely so clear and obvious that it is hardly worth debate. It was a sad accident and I really feel for the survivors and families

The drift into boating after dark has tempted me in, though. This is our "patch" for training, and we run a lot of Advanced powerboat courses and exams out here. It really does get dark sometimes and when you see some of the poorly equipped boats and drivers that head out, you can't help wondering how we escape without more sad stories

20 knots in those conditions isn't unusual, but it certainly isn't what we'd normally recommend, especially if the only electronic aid you have is your GPS. I've been in the unfortunate position of acting as expert witness for an incident where a boat was driven up the beach at 20 knots in the dark, and I've witnessed a few near misses. A good radar and the ability to use it properly (the 2 don't always come together) helps enormously, and is much more reassuring than a GPS. I had a little discussion with one person on an Advanced exam earlier this year who somehow became immortal (in his own mind) because he had a "spare" GPS in case his main set failed. Both ran off the same battery. When I switched that supply off, he went to pieces. And he had no understanding at all of assessing whether or not his GPS status was accurate or not (at one point the HDOP dropped to 8, and it was very obvious to me - but not to him - that the lighthouse which was showing half a mile abeam on the screen of his plotter was the one that he couldn't see without looking through his A-frame)

Anyway, rant over - I'm off to watch the rest of the Countryfile programme from just down the road in another playground, the Falls of Lora

Ian

PS. That guy failed his exam, naturally
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