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Old 21 July 2013, 18:37   #11
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Driving the boat up the trailer is the easiest way to recover, yes he forgot the winch (we all make mistakes) but his method worked.
I agree with that bit . . .

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Even though Wifey was between the boat and the winch post the chance of harm is very little, boats like this cant just jump up the trailer,
...but not with this bit.

I've seen boats being driven onto a trailer where they get a bit stuck then lurch forward when more throttle is applied. I absolutely would not want anyone between the boat and the winch post.
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Old 21 July 2013, 18:39   #12
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Swimmers (including my kids) in the water less than 15 feet from it all.
Maybe not the best place to be swimming?
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Old 21 July 2013, 19:04   #13
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Maybe not the best place to be swimming?
The other 50 odd boats that launched in this location today managed to do so without any danger to the other 20 or so kids/adults swimming in the sea, which isn't restricted in any way from various areas near the slipway. The swimmers are very aware of the boats and act accordingly but what exactly can you do when an out of control boat tries to drive up the slipway ? They could have been on the slip minding their own and still got killed!

Its a shame the boats are less so aware of the swimmers, or how to operate their own craft. It could just as easily of been a beach full of swimmers he was coming into before flooring it!

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Old 22 July 2013, 11:19   #14
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I just keep everyone out of the way, I know my own routine and anyone 'helping' just increases the time to launch/recover, and my stress
Agree 100% with this. Which is why I stay out of the way unless specifically asked to do anything if I'm with anyone else .

I'm the same with my boat - 'help' no matter how well intended, or even if the person offering is very very capable can actually be a huge hindrance. ( thats my excuse for watching the carnage at local slipways and not offering to help and I'm sticking with it - unless someone is about to get properly hurt when I might speak up)
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It's the "between the boat and winch post" bit. The "ramming" bit. The "non tight winch" bit. The "drag strip start" bit. As you say LLP, for you this was taught and you have many years experience. IMHO having the right kit ( wheels and not bunks ) for the job, and a slower far more controlled approach involving the winch rather than throttle at the extreme ends of activity, would count for a lot, esp other people's safety.
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It's the "between the boat and winch post" bit. The "ramming" bit. The "non tight winch" bit. The "drag strip start" bit. As you say LLP, for you this was taught and you have many years experience. IMHO having the right kit ( wheels and not bunks ) for the job, and a slower far more controlled approach involving the winch rather than throttle at the extreme ends of activity, would count for a lot, esp other people's safety.
Yep, thats fair enough. I just get a bit anoyed with people telling me to winch my boat on cos its 'safer', have they ever tried winching 3500kg of boat by hand, it would probably give me a heart attack

I do always finish the the last foot or so by winch, I even manage to avoid crushing wifey..... most of the time
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Agree 100% with this. Which is why I stay out of the way unless specifically asked to do anything if I'm with anyone else .
Glad I know that now I just thought you were a lazy terwat! Ha
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They could have been on the slip minding their own and still got killed!
I generally regard slipways as incredibly dangerous places. People are rushing (so as not to upset impatient Landlockedpete), haven't got their boats attached properly, don't have safety chains on trailers have sudden changes of angle, slippery surfaces, doing difficult reversing, driving boats onto trailers etc. As a result (1) I try to instill into my crew (especially the junior members of the crew) that slipways are not places to wander around and (2) if you do need to be there - minding your own business is the last thing you should be doing.

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The chap had claimed it started it gear, when I checked it over for him I found kill cord (from a rubber ring, not a motor) connected to switch/key so completely useless! Checked the engine over and the start in gear was working fine, as was the locking gears. He just engaged the wrong way.

Motor wasn't running right, due to incorrect installation of throttle cables. This would also explain the tight throttle response too. He fitted motor himself so he said.
I once had a boat with incorrectly fitted gear cable. This gave me no reverse gear - but left the engine in forward. As I tried to apply reverse to slow the boat down the opposite happened which made for an interesting moment! Probably not what happened here, but I'm a little less critical of other's 'cock ups' since then.
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