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Old 28 June 2014, 04:49   #11
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Better still, let's all stay safe and dry on land.

Mollers, stop playing Devils Advocate, the man asked for advice on launching and retrieving in small surf on a gently sloping beach
But theres not a word of a lie in what he said.

With tubes going out beyond the transom theres a huge lift happens with even relatively minor waves, which makes you lose control of the boat.

The biggest Ive recovered on sand was an 8.5m with a 275 on it, in 2 foot waves, which was a life or death experience I wont ever repeat, I just didnt have options at the time .. well yes we did .. put it back on a mooring and forgot about it till conditions improved ...

Having watched the vid .. they were recovering with 2 blokes holding the boat ! .. if you dont get the timing right, or theres a delay controlling the bow onto the trailer, its all too easy to get in trouble.

Lots of factors are at play though .. how steep the beach is being the most significant IMO (and the wave height obviously) where I launch , the wave pattern and slope varies across the beach .. so you can usually find a spot that makes the job that little bit easier .. 5 -5.5M boats are about my limit
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Old 28 June 2014, 05:38   #12
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Mollers, stop playing Devils Advocate,
Rather, attempting to highlight the inherent difficulties involved with surf launch/recovery, whilst you're doing the opposite.

I'm not talking from behind a keyboard here, I do this regularly. Unless you have a suitable beach, benign conditions and a suitable rig, it can be a challenge to say the least.
Yer man in Asia may have repeat conditions day in day, but we don't in this country. Surf conditions alter constantly.

I'm trying to add some balance should Mr. Beachside Newb be browsing, I feel that you are giving the impression that surf launch is a doddle, it ain't.
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Old 28 June 2014, 06:14   #13
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We once got caught out at Beadnell, where the launch is by council tractor off the beach. Flat as a witches t1t when we went out, but picked up onshore during the day. Came back in & the tractor had broken down & we had a couple of feet of surf. The boat was a 6.4m Osprey with an OMC V6 inboard, a heavy b'stard! I ran it up the beach & as each wave came in & lifted the boat, we inched it up the beach out of the surf. I brought the trailer down with the Disco & we dry recovered it off the beach, un hitch the trailer from the car, attach the winch to the boat & start winding. The winch pulls the trailer under the boat & the trailer hitch ends up about 6' in the air until the weight of the boat comes forward & it all settles down. hitch on & drive away. Hard work, but doable & no trauma trying to get the boat on the trailer in the surf.
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Old 29 June 2014, 01:20   #14
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Thanks guys. You've pretty much confirmed what I thought. It isn't easy even in pretty flat conditions. An electric winch on the trailer would appear to make things easier provided there's a manual back up. But most of you have confirmed my original thought. Surf in and run it up the beach and get it out of the surf ASAP. For a 4.8m RIB it looks like a minimum 3 man job in calm conditions, rising to 5 men in 18ins surf. Don't try it in anything much bigger than that.

About 1000 mts away from the school there's a breakwater behind which the local fishermen moor their boats. From what you've all said I think I might be advised to look at getting a mooring there and motoring up each day. My biggest worry would then be the security of my brand new baby!
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We once got caught out at Beadnell, where the launch is by council tractor off the beach. Flat as a witches t1t when we went out, but picked up onshore during the day. Came back in & the tractor had broken down & we had a couple of feet of surf. The boat was a 6.4m Osprey with an OMC V6 inboard, a heavy b'stard! I ran it up the beach & as each wave came in & lifted the boat, we inched it up the beach out of the surf. I brought the trailer down with the Disco & we dry recovered it off the beach, un hitch the trailer from the car, attach the winch to the boat & start winding. The winch pulls the trailer under the boat & the trailer hitch ends up about 6' in the air until the weight of the boat comes forward & it all settles down. hitch on & drive away. Hard work, but doable & no trauma trying to get the boat on the trailer in the surf.

Thanks that makes utter sense . If I was in that situation I would have tried to winch it with trailer attached . Pure maths really trailer lighter than boat.


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My biggest worry would then be the security of my brand new baby!
Leave a GSD onboard. ;-)
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Old 30 June 2014, 06:40   #17
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Leave a GSD onboard. ;-)
Being a novice I'm not sure if you are recommending a German Shepherd dog or some piece of fancy kit, but it prompted the thought of GPS tracker which would of course take care of the security. Job done then and the breakwaters were inspected today and look absolutely perfect to moor the boat in protected water.

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