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Old 27 May 2007, 18:45   #11
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Thanks for the advice everyone - good stuff.

I've tried keeping going for a little while when she's unhappy and it doesn't really work, so have had to slow down.

Both my kids have swimming lessons and are very confident in the water, so I don't think there's any inherent fear of water. They've both had a go in ringos in Greece on holiday and enjoyed it (which surprised me a bit!), so I think we'll get hold of some toys this year for extra entertainment. (They've already got wetsuits).

I let them drive a little bit, but good idea to let them try more.

TBH, I think the main thing is patience from me. I tend to get frustrated pottering along at 8 knots on a perfectly calm day, but maybe that's all we need to do for a few times to build up her confidence and familiarity with being on the water again. She's been happy when we've just motored slowly up the Itchen or Beaulieu rivers.

I'll also think ahead a bit more about picnics and lunch stops.

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Old 28 May 2007, 04:33   #12
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Thanks for the advice everyone - good stuff.

I've tried keeping going for a little while when she's unhappy and it doesn't really work, so have had to slow down.

Both my kids have swimming lessons and are very confident in the water, so I don't think there's any inherent fear of water. They've both had a go in ringos in Greece on holiday and enjoyed it (which surprised me a bit!), so I think we'll get hold of some toys this year for extra entertainment. (They've already got wetsuits).

I let them drive a little bit, but good idea to let them try more.

TBH, I think the main thing is patience from me. I tend to get frustrated pottering along at 8 knots on a perfectly calm day, but maybe that's all we need to do for a few times to build up her confidence and familiarity with being on the water again. She's been happy when we've just motored slowly up the Itchen or Beaulieu rivers.

I'll also think ahead a bit more about picnics and lunch stops.

Cheers,

Gerry
Gerry - my little one - who is much younger than yours loves the "idea" of the boat and is quite happy if it is calm and we aren't going too fast. He doesn't like getting wet or the windchill at 20 knots! He seems to be happiest sitting between mummy and daddy (we have a stupid bench seat for driving) in the shelter of the console.

For short trips at low speed he is always happy enough - for longer trips we find he needs an incentive - we are going to see the seals, or for a picnic, or to play on the beach etc...

You said your girls don't like the transition from displacement to the plane - does the bow go sky high when you do this - if so I can understand the concern if they don't understand it. If by playing around with the trim you can keep the nose down and get on the plane still (perhaps not as good hole shot) - then they may be more settled.

Finally, can you hear them/they hear you at speed? I can't hear my son at all - so if they are trying to tell you something (like I'm scared, or freezing, or go faster!) then you will appear to be ignoring them...
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Hi Gerry

I think we've all been there. We've been teaching my daughter to ski and last year we were about ready to give up. This year, however, we were successful. We spent the time when we were not skiing enthusing about how much fun it was.

Peer pressure can work but remember if the friend doesn't enjoy the rib this can bring on the kiss of death.

We found treats a really good way of encouraging her, this can be sweets or grapes, having a mini picnic on the boat when under way - food that is really fun and associates the whole trip as fun.

Make sure they are warm - we all think that children don't feel the cold but if they are already nervous, they get really cold very quickly and they don't enjoy it and things deteriorate really quickly.

Stick with it but take it down a notch and before you know it - I bet she'll love it. We have all this to go through when (if) we get our boat, but I'm currently looking to invest in some proper wet-weather gear - not so much for the rain, but more for a wind stopper and warmth. Also going to look into how we can make a little den.

Good luck.

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Happy little camper in a save phace

I was out last weekend with my 9 year old, late afternoon in winter, and he was coping, just, but complained a lot about cold ears, cold nose .... until this!

He loved it ... a death-eater with warm face and ears - no more complaints!

Thoroughly recommended.

PS I like it too, need another one or two.
PPS JK, pl feel free to copy to other thread!
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Old 20 July 2007, 09:37   #15
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THen a big gin palace comes roaring down the solent.
So I
1. Tell everyone to hold on to something secure
2. Tell novice driver to turn into wake
3. Tell him to throttle back, 12 knots or so should be ok.

We hit the wake, steeper than I expected, but the boat rose over no problem, then slammed into the next 'wave' of the wake and when the tubes made contact with the near vertical water the boat lurched, and bounced back. 1 x child airborne!
She flew over my head, over the 'A' frame and landed about 10 ft behind us in the water.
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Old 20 July 2007, 09:55   #16
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Gerry

There is some great advice there.
I am very very lucky my 9 year love boats.
Was very nervous for her when I first introduced her to ribs about 3 years ago but she took to it like a duck to water, pardon the pun
She now "drives" everything from a small tender to my 9m and she has driven a 10m!

Am not trying to teach anyone to suck eggs but these are the kinda things that have worked for me.
Not only as a dad but as a youth worker for many years.

Your a dad and you will know this but she will sense and pick up on your frustrations.
"If you show fear they will attack"
IMHO you need to take a deep breath and ride with it.
Let them drive as much as you can, this is a big thing for all kids and gives them the "WOW" factor.
Even if you itching to take control resist.

Get them on a training course, RYA Level 1.

Like most have said the key is getting your little one involved.
Make her feel useful and a real part of the crew.
Getting her doing stuff around the boat when you are getting ready to go to sea etc.

All very much IMHO but hope it help even if just a little.

"what I hear I forget, what I see I remember, what I do I understand and enjoy"

All the very best with this.
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Gerry, not much use for you but starting them young helps – ie baby onwards! That way it’s nothing is new. Sarah G is also right about keeping them warm and getting the right kit. Lots of food also helps – just keep feeding them chocolate. Finally the advice about getting them involved is also important, driving, mooring up etc. One thing I have also found is that those enormous, cumbersome lifejackets for kids don’t make the experience any easier. You can get auto-inflating LJs from 15kg onwards so get them in those asap.
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Try not taking her out for a while she may feel left out if she keeps hearing what great fun we all had Does she like dolphins and things like that? tell her that you may see some, when and if the weather does eventually improve stop off frequently in quiet bays and beaches and let her explore and have her own fun, eventually she will realize that a rib is just cool
Don't force the fun of ribbing on her though, she must know its fun before she loses the fear.
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yes, yes i know she has not got her hand on the throttle as she should, you try telling a 4 year old that already knows everything....................... women...lol..... and im the one wearing the kill cord...
Spot the candy floss bucket near the transom, this was last month coming back into Poole after dolphin spotting off of Swanage.... with a really old double skinned delta that we were doing a contract with, Tohatsu ---- pain the ass outboard with a mind of its own....!!
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