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05 March 2005, 11:40
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Hugo Montgomery Swan and his solicitors
A few weeks ago a contributor to the RIBnet forums posted a message saying that Hugo Montgomery Swan had reneged on an agreement to pay for an article to be used in RIB International Magazine. A lengthy discussion followed.
I have recently been contacted by DF&M Beckman, solicitors representing Hugo Montgomery Swan, who assure me that the claims made were not in fact correct. If you are interested you can read their letter here.
Without prejudice, as a gesture of goodwill, I have now removed the offending statement.
As a general note I would like to point out that everyone has a right to reply on these forums if they feel that they have been misrepresented. Also that before going to the expense of instructing a solicitor, a polite email might be an easier way to get what you want!
John
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05 March 2005, 12:15
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Oh dear, that's all got a little out of hand hasn't it!
Out of interest JK, how much in your opinion would be "reasonable legal costs and a sum by way of compensation"
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05 March 2005, 12:38
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In the last issue of RI an article was published, apparently written by Paul Lemmer, where a description of how a lower unit changes gear was entirely incorrect. I wonder whether anyone who uses this information believing it to be correct and subsequntly causes damage to their engine or even simply just believes something to be true which isn't, will instruct their solicitor to contact RI requesting similar action as they are requiring of you.
After all, this is a public forum but they, presumably, have full control of their magazine's content.
Perhaps I should send them a polite e-mail to inform them of their error.
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05 March 2005, 12:44
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Perhaps I should send them a polite e-mail to inform them of their error. 
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Perhaps you should be instructing solicitors, I can recommend DF&M Beckman!!!!!
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05 March 2005, 13:01
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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler
Out of interest JK, how much in your opinion would be "reasonable legal costs and a sum by way of compensation"
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Approximately nothing and zero respectively . . .
John
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05 March 2005, 13:45
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Originally Posted by John Kennett
Also that before going to the expensive lengths of instructing a solicitor, a polite email might be an easier way to get what you want!
John
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No doubt. It speaks volumes of an individuals' character when they go running to their lawyers even before attempting to communicate directly with the individual they have a dispute with.
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05 March 2005, 14:12
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Read the solicitor's letter and it begs the question "Why didn't HMS make public the terms of the agreement between RI and Fjord Rafting and then people would come to their own conclusions.
He simply needed to state his own position with his interpretation of the facts and then say that he was not prepared to enter into any further public discussion.
The heavy handed action that he has taken might make some conclude an entirely different outcome.
Now, when's my subscription up for renewal......
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05 March 2005, 15:01
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I think we should all email HMS & tell him what we all think about his handling of this situation!
May be he is as jumped up as his magazine portrays!
Nick
Now I just wait for a letter from his solicitor!
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05 March 2005, 17:53
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....mental note to self; "Add link to lengthy disclaimer denying all intent to offend, slander (well you never know someone might download a .wav of mine) or libelise.
Meanwhile back at the ranch, have you seen some of our fellow members posts alluding to all sorts of stuff mainly bulging waistlines etc. DF & M Beckman wont be able to write the letters fast enough!
Also Dirk Diggler, be careful some of your "spoiled women" dont return alleging that you may not have spoiled them enough!!
JW read the small print in the front of Rib int. I'd not noticed till now it basically says if do some of the stuff in here and it doesnt work its not our fault.. you've got to laugh!
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05 March 2005, 18:40
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Originally Posted by Simon B
JW read the small print in the front of Rib int. I'd not noticed till now it basically says if do some of the stuff in here and it doesnt work its not our fault.. you've got to laugh!
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No, I've not noticed that bit. There's usually a copout clause somewhere.
There you go, JK, a copout clause is wot u need....
'If you read summat in Ribnet you don't agree wiv, it's not my fault.'
Or, as we say up here, "It wuzznae me."
JK, can we have the Boatmad Hugegrin smilie please.
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