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Old 21 October 2005, 09:50   #41
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Old 21 October 2005, 09:50   #42
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I note most people here stand in rough conditions. Taking this into consideration how many of those who stand have nearly been thrown from the helm position. If so how could this be prevented.
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I note most people here stand in rough conditions. Taking this into consideration how many of those who stand have nearly been thrown from the helm position. If so how could this be prevented.
Foot straps & good leg mussels! After all you do not st down when riding a horse at anything over a walk!
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I note most people here stand in rough conditions. Taking this into consideration how many of those who stand have nearly been thrown from the helm position. If so how could this be prevented.
If the boat movement is so violent as to throw one out. I don't think that sitting or standing makes any difference. I was once thrown out from the rear seat of a Phantom 18 race boat when the stearing let go at 65mph. Bearing in mind you sit well in a race hardboat as opposed to high up in a Rib. Only a full harness would of kept us in. The driver and I came out, the passenger stayed in and broke two ribs. Which is preferable?
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I note most people here stand in rough conditions. Taking this into consideration how many of those who stand have nearly been thrown from the helm position. If so how could this be prevented.
A white knuckle grip and a strong desire to stay with the boat.
I have not been out in any really nasty stuff so I cant say what I would do, but what ever it was it would be however I felt most secure.

I have nearly exited as a passenger when sitting. Some how I feel more secure standing and keeping as many points of contact as I can. It is hard to use your legs to brace yourself when sitting so you have to rely on your arms only. Wrap around seat backs must hel as will toe straps.

Over to you and Tim for your advice.

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Old 21 October 2005, 10:55   #48
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Old 21 October 2005, 11:00   #49
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I hope you are not referring to my body guard Dangerous Dave ex SAS as he would be most upset And If i recall it was November/December and very cold
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Ilegal immigrant maybe
makeing a few bob on the side tim
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If he is your body guard Tim you would be as dead as a nit
by the time he got out of that lot
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If he is your body guard Tim you would be as dead as a nit
by the time he got out of that lot
Its his body armour plus he can not be recognised or his cover would be blown he even sleeps in the balaclava his kid's dont even know what he looks like and they are 11 and 14 years of age
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Old 21 October 2005, 11:30   #53
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I note most people here stand in rough conditions. Taking this into consideration how many of those who stand have nearly been thrown from the helm position. If so how could this be prevented.
A few slightly random comments, not aimed at anyone in particular:

I tend to stand as it's more comfortable and gives a much better view ahead. As Jimbo noted, it makes looking behind easier too. I'll sometimes sit if going very slowly, but not very often. It helps to have narrow seat pods which extend well forward, as you can stand with your feet a comfortable distance apart and brace yourself on the seat pod. These don't seem to be very common.

If you're not fit enough to spend a long day standing in a RIB in rough weather, then do something else instead. Sitting on a jockey seat in the same conditions is likely to hurt you much more. My view is that for visibility and shock absorbtion, RIBs are best driven standing up. Jockey seats are suitable for occasional respite, but if you want to drive sitting down then get some decent bucket seats.

Being tall makes standing difficult on some RIBs, as it's not possible to comfortably reach the wheel and the throttle. On many RIBs the ergonomics are so poor that even for sensible sized people it doesn't work well.

For that matter the wheel and throttle positions on a lot of RIBs are not ideal for anyone, in any position. Can you comfortably sit (or stand) for any length of time with one hand on the wheel and the other on the throttle? Do the controls fall to hand, or do you have to reach? How can you brace yourself other than hanging on to the steering wheel?

As it happens, I've never come near being thrown out of the boat. Most of my experience in more challenging conditions has been in Phoenix, which had a taller than standard console so I could drive comfortably standing up. It was not a particularly fast RIB which probably helped too! I suspect most incidents where people have been ejected, or near misses, could have been avoided by better matching the driving style to the boat and the conditions.

While I'm giving opinions, here are a couple more:
  • If you want to go fast (50 knots plus) then get bucket seats.
  • Bench seats are generally not suitable for RIBs (with the exception of some of the wrap round benches, but even then only for passengers)
Stop me if I'm ranting . . .

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Poor littel sods still look on the bright side he will make a good
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Old 21 October 2005, 11:44   #55
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Poor littel sods still look on the bright side he will make a good
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Enough of this jovial banter
must go and look at the boat make sure its still there.?
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JK - Having tried the BananaSharks seating - what did you think of that? (just ordered some new upholstery by the way!)
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Old 21 October 2005, 12:53   #58
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Gotta try harder Cookee. Time for a conditional close.

"You will agree, sir, that our RIB is the only one that will comfortably accommodate your stature, and now we can provide the upholstery that you require, why not write a cheque for the depoist now?"

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Old 21 October 2005, 12:58   #59
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Ilegal immigrant maybe
Nah, I took him home.

Tim, has Kathleen made you an offer for that fetching PINK life jacket yet?
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That rather macho Lifejacket is now in the hands of SlimTim
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