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Old 22 November 2007, 04:22   #21
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That is why we are sitting more to the front. Creates more working space in the back for patients to. Cost us speed, gains safety. Only the driver(?) sits. Two man are standing behind a bar.

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Old 22 November 2007, 04:27   #22
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Old 22 November 2007, 04:29   #23
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That is why we are sitting more to the front. Creates more working space in the back for patients to. Cost us speed, gains safety. Only the driver(?) sits. Two man are standing behind a bar.

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Are you implying that you could/would go out in the conditions in the video? And if you did that two crew could stand up with just a s/steel bar in front of them to hang onto for support.
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Old 22 November 2007, 04:38   #24
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Is that an RNLI thing, or is it commercially available ?
Nasher is correct - we have a 150 litre system in our race boat, but the leisure version has it's centre of gravity moved forward as a compromise so that it doesn't need one. Performance boats often have them as they are as light as possible for speed in flat conditions and better upwind performance in the rough.

Bow tanks can be added, but it's a big job and even bigger if you want one fitted without pipes everywhere! Ideally you would fit a pick up to the transom with an underdeck pipe leading to a tank in the bow (you'll need double the size of the inlet as a breather). To fill the tank move the lever to fill which lowers a pickup into the water below the transom and water is forced up the pipe. an intermediate setting allows you to hold the water, and empty allows the water to flow back down the pipe to empty the tank.

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Old 22 November 2007, 05:13   #25
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Are you implying that you could/would go out in the conditions in the video? And if you did that two crew could stand up with just a s/steel bar in front of them to hang onto for support.
We would have had a better chance. You can see the boat hanging backwords all the time, even between waves. He should have seen it coming, they have had at least two warnings. We have the same kind of waves in stormy wether at the IJsselmeer. Short and braking.

But it's better to have a longer boat, 10 meters al least. Menno is building one for that reason.

Beleaf me, it is better to stand than to sit in that conditions.

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We would have had a better chance.

Beleaf me, it is better to stand than to sit in that conditions.

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Not sure how standing up can keep a boat from flipping over?

There comes a point with a breaking wave that will turn any boat over that isn't capable of breaking through a wave, and I believe that to be a fact!
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Old 22 November 2007, 06:13   #27
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Not sure how standing up can keep a boat from flipping over?

There comes a point with a breaking wave that will turn any boat over that isn't capable of breaking through a wave, and I believe that to be a fact!
I reacted at Colward: "And if you did that two crew could stand up with just a s/steel bar in front of them to hang onto for support"

Flipping has everything to do with balance. And balance is influanced by weight and the positon of the motor. You can flip with no waves at all:


simon flipping

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We would have had a better chance. You can see the boat hanging backwords all the time, even between waves. He should have seen it coming, they have had at least two warnings. We have the same kind of waves in stormy wether at the IJsselmeer. Short and braking.
you didn't actually answer my question though - would you have gone out in those conditions? "he should have seen it coming" - doesn't necessarily mean either you or he could have avoided it.

I am surprised that if these are the sort of conditions you work in that your rib has no self righting gear.
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I am not doubting that it might be more comforable with the correct set up - but I very much doubt you could confidently tackle the size of waves in the picture - in your boat without the risk of loosing one overboard - or at least him "falling" the length of the boat into the transom/a-frame/engine.
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I reacted at Colward: "And if you did that two crew could stand up with just a s/steel bar in front of them to hang onto for support"

Flipping has everything to do with balance. And balance is influanced by weight and the positon of the motor. You can flip with no waves at all:


simon flipping

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Please dont take this the wrong way, but I suggest Cookee knows what influences the balance of a boat.

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