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Old 17 May 2012, 06:44   #11
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If it helps, I bought my 6m with 115 4 stroke off a couple of wake boarders, it was plenty powerful enough just did not have much of a wake, once you get to a certain size the extra drag on the boat is a much smaller percentage.
Sweet!

Well I think ideally I want a 4 Stroke because it is quiet and reliable.

The boat we are getting will be 590kg dry weight without fuel + motor. I guess this is relatively light?

I think I will chase up a minimum 115HP but hopefully a 130HP and this should be sweet I guess.
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Old 17 May 2012, 06:55   #12
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I'd agree with all of the above other than, 4strokes are actually better ski tugs. Low down torque, nice snooth pull out.
Etecs ideally, require re-mapping to make a decent ski boat motors. Mine is a nightmare, all or nothing pull out and doesn't like holding a steady lowish speed.
That's down to the "instant" power of the 2 stroke, whereas the 4 stroke needs to think about it for a day or so before it decides what to do & then slooooowly gets out of bed I agree about the etecs, they like to be off, mine hate chugging about in the 1500-2500 rpm range
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Old 17 May 2012, 08:14   #13
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Sweet!

Well I think ideally I want a 4 Stroke because it is quiet and reliable.
Quiet at tick over and reliable until they go wrong. Outboards go wrong if they are poorly maintained, whether they're 2 or 4st, it makes no difference.

I wouldn't want a Chinese built rib as a gift. Do yourself a huge favour and buy a used UK built rib for the same money.

Also, run it buy this forum before shelling out cash.
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Old 17 May 2012, 09:06   #14
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It is unfortunate I think that they would be so irresponsible to sell such crap really. [/QUOTE]

Unfortunately China is where a lot of the crap comes from

I'm sure that you have done your research well and I hope that you particular rib is one of the good ones and that you have many years enjoyment out of it
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Old 17 May 2012, 12:37   #15
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I have had a 4m Avon with a 40hp four stroke and a 5.6m Avon with a 100hp four stroke both were capable of pulling skiers and wakeboarders. The 4m could be a little tardy but the 5.6 had no problem at all and was great with less experienced people as the pick up was so smooth. I agree my brothers 5.8m Ribcraft (or Ribtec) with a 115hp two stroke was far more ballistic, but often left the skier in the water and the handle making its way through the air back to the boat!! Either will serve you well if you get a good one and keep up with the maintanence.

Best advice is to use it often and open it up, thats what outboards are built for and thats what they like best! They just hate tootling about or being left alone all winter to corrode while the winter gremlins get to work.

I would also put in a vote for a decent secondhand boat from a manufaturer with a good reputation, it is not just about weight, structure and design is just as important as lay up weight. Any fool can keep slapping on the layers of glass, but designing in strength and sea keeping is an art that not all builders have.

Whatever you get enjoy your boat and let us know what you decide and how you get on.
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Old 17 May 2012, 19:27   #16
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I wouldn't want a Chinese built rib as a gift. Do yourself a huge favour and buy a used UK built rib for the same money.
He's in Oz though, Mols.
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He's in Oz though, Mols.
I did notice that, but still reckon my comments stand.

Which non-European built ribs actually cut the mustard?

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Old 18 May 2012, 04:28   #18
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How much is a shipping container to Oz these days? Boggy managed to get Seawolf to the Malv.......sorry!... Falklands.
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PS just had a quick Google, $170 US/m3 or 1000kg for containers from London to Oz
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Old 18 May 2012, 05:41   #19
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Apherel imported a new 5.8 Vipermax to Oz, so he may be able to help on costs.
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A few years ago it used to be about USD400 to ship a 40ft container from port to port - anywhere. You can then easily triple that cost moving the container to/ from the port at either end - so if you could "simply" drive your RIB on a trailer into a container at the port in the UK and do the opposite in Australia, then it's a very cheap option (ignoring Australian import duties for the moment - which I don't know about). I thought that global shipping costs had dropped sharply in the last few years however, so it might be cheaper now.
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