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Old 06 September 2010, 15:47   #1
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first rib?

Hi, probably a really common question but i am considering my first rib.

it needs to go in a double garage, suit 2 adults and 2 kids and be powerful enough to use safely at sea. i will tow to south of france etc to use on holidays. fishing, water skiiing etc.

Thinking about a good 2nd hand 4 to 5m rib with 50-70HP engine. any suggestions to steer me in the right direction!! anything to look out for?
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Old 07 September 2010, 17:04   #2
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Old 07 September 2010, 17:35   #3
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I don't think you will get a 5.4 in a double garage without some very creative manouvering. Hate to be biased but a 4.7m Searider would be spot on and is the choice I made when looking for pretty much exactly the same criteria as you. Difficult to find compared to a 5.4m though. Have a search on the forum though as there are loads of previous topics on this subject.
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thanks for the replys, my garage is 5.5m long internal. can you get a removable front on some trailers i believe?
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Old 08 September 2010, 04:28   #6
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Firstly, Welcome to Ribnet!

This is an interesting equation - you say your garage is 5.5m long. There are trailers with removable drawbars, but unless you want a huge faff every time you take it anywhwere, it's probably best to look at the whole rig:

- What is your tow vehicle? if it is a big heavy thing, you could go unbraked up to 750Kg, which instantly shortens the distance from winch post to Hitch by about 0.5m, BUT, a 4- stroke outboard will eat into that weight allowance, and also do you want to future proof against a smaller car? (in both cases pointing towards brakes). An unbraked trailer will give you about 100 extra KG to play with on the boat, but that is likely to be irrelevant if your car can only tow 600Kg unbraked.

I assume it's a double door? I have a double garage - but with two single doors, which restricts beam somewhat. (there are a lot of 5m & smaller ribs out there at >2m beam) Then of course if you have a smaller rib, you don't need the monster engine for the same performnance, again keeping the weight down & shortening hitch length by going unbraked....

So, lets assume you have to go braked. One big thing to remember is that for most boat trailers "boat length" on the spec. sheet assums a solid hull. Net result is inevitably on a rib trailer you get 200 yds of drawbar hanging out the front! (Your toobs will be approx 0.5m diameter, and the cones at the rear will likely hang out a similar distance give or take a bit too, all of which doesn't need a roller / bunk under it - so you can actually get a trailer designed for a metre(ish) shorter boat than your rib! (which is what I did).

Just for the "pot" I got what is now sold as the Humber O-Pro 2m beam, but my garage is a single door & has an extra 2o cm on yours. (you did measure to the door and not down the side wall?)

Somewhere I have a summary of rib weights / lengths etc for when I was looking to go bigger. If I can find it I'll post back with a list of anything sub 5m.
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hi i am planning to tow with a range rover sport or a 3 litre diesel motorhome (to south of france in the summer) which has a towing limit of 2 tonnes.

my garage has a single double door and is a roller shutter type which doesnt obstruct the garage length of 5.5m or the height which is about 2.3m.

Realistically the boat will be occasional use for sea fishing trips, family days out. the main use will be when we are on holidays as there is a great campsite near St Tropez with free mooring.

As the kids are 3 and 5 years i dont expect to be taking it out in bad weather but that said i dont want something that is dodgy if we get caught in a freak storm. I am doing my RYA level 2 in prep as i havent any sea experience except windsurfing!!

I have seen boats like the Valiant Vanguard 520 Limited RIB with 100HP 4 stroke but am interested as to why they state "suitable for inshore fishing" would this boat not be suitable for sea use as it seems quite large and powerful?
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Old 08 September 2010, 06:07   #8
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Again, my use/limitations were very much the same - bear in mind that if you want to use the garage for anything else you need a bit of room to move about the thing! I've gone from having a spacious double garage for odd jobs/Landy servicing etc to having 75% of it filled with a big rubber lump - only time will tell if the usage I get from the boat is worth the inconvenience. If it helps here is the info I got when posting a similar first Q:

http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=36823

And this is the boat I bought:

http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=37261
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thanks max, have you used the boat much, done your RYA part 2 yet?
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Did the RYA PB2 a couple of weeks ago - essential and highly recommended. Due to work/time/tides/weather/access been out once in the boat since PB2 but hopeful for this weekend (used to be a windsurfer too and that's a lot easier/quicker to go out for a quick blast!).
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