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Old 08 September 2010, 08:09   #11
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hi i am planning to tow with a range rover sport or a 3 litre diesel motorhome (to south of france in the summer) which has a towing limit of 2 tonnes.

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i dont want something that is dodgy if we get caught in a freak storm. I am doing my RYA level 2 in prep as i havent any sea experience except windsurfing!!
If you are towing with those, you are very likely to get something sub 5M that when added to trailer will top out at 750Kg. - That half metre of braked hitch may be the difference between fit / not fit!

I you are a windsurfer, i guess you'll have a reasonable awareness of the weather. Not being an expert on the St tropez climate, assuming you don't get real "random & sudden" storms, there's nothing that a bit of pre- arming yourself with the forecast couldn't cure.

Even if it does get sh!tty really quickly, a smaller rib is going to be the better place to be compared to a binliner or something similar! I hired a Rib off the west coast of Italy - nice "med" thing with a bench seat & a sunbathing cusion at the bow (useless feature in the weather we went out in!). There was a good westerly wind that day, so nice & choppy lumpy. Boat handled fine (Yam branded rib ~ 5/5.5m mark with a 40 on the back). My only complaint was sliding around on the bench seat, but then I'm used to a jockey....


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I have seen boats like the Valiant Vanguard 520 Limited RIB with 100HP 4 stroke but am interested as to why they state "suitable for inshore fishing" would this boat not be suitable for sea use as it seems quite large and powerful?
100Hp 4- stroke is Huge on a 5.3. to put this in perspective, my current Humber (5.3m) will easily do 28 knots with a 60 2 up. It was originally sold as a North sea rescue boat with a 40.... (the whole thing full of fuel only weighs 430 KG!) If you are recovering solo, weight could also be the difference between easy & PITA.....
You'll probably find that the Valiant has not got certain features "as sold" that up it to the next CE category, but I'll leave the rib builders to expand on that.


What I'm trying to say is you don't need a rib the size of the QE2 to get home! If youre doing the course hopefully you'll get a better feel for what various boats can do. Maybe some of the Ribnetters near you might be up for a crew, again so you can get a feel for it.


The overriding thing in this case is your garage. If you park squinty, you loose a good chunk of your garage, but can fit a bigger rib in. Or you do what I did, get one that fits lengthwise, and still have half a garage to play with. Granted I'd probably have gone slightly wider beam if I had a double door.....) As for Max' comment, if it;s "conventianally" parked, there is no huge need to get tio the other side, as you can't store anything there if it's hard against the wall.....

I'll see if I can find that spreadheet of hulls tonight.
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Old 08 September 2010, 09:06   #12
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The overriding thing in this case is your garage. If you park squinty, you loose a good chunk of your garage, but can fit a bigger rib in. Or you do what I did, get one that fits lengthwise, and still have half a garage to play with. Granted I'd probably have gone slightly wider beam if I had a double door.....) As for Max' comment, if it;s "conventianally" parked, there is no huge need to get tio the other side, as you can't store anything there if it's hard against the wall.....

I'll see if I can find that spreadheet of hulls tonight.
Depends on the individual garage of course - if you have floor to ceiling fixed commerical type shelving each side, a raftered roof with storage, a freezer, work benches, electrical meter and main rear access door halfway across it all gets a bit more tricky!
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Old 08 September 2010, 12:19   #13
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great campsite near St Tropez with free mooring.
do you have any information on this campsite ie website. its just what ive bin looking for.
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Old 09 September 2010, 04:47   #14
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Depends on the individual garage of course - if you have floor to ceiling fixed commerical type shelving each side, a raftered roof with storage, a freezer, work benches, electrical meter and main rear access door halfway across it all gets a bit more tricky!
Got the meter & the boiler "trapped", but for the once every third solstice anyone comes to look at them, I can move the boat out the way for half an hour.......

The rest (including access ladder to the roof & dirty sink) is in the other half of the garage, hence my comments on parking it "conventionally"
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Old 09 September 2010, 06:00   #15
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4.8m rib 2.2m wide fits into 18tf garage with up and over door nicely. It will also depend on the A frame hieght. My all round light is custom made to be removable this works very well.
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Old 09 September 2010, 06:16   #16
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My garage is empty basically and just over 5.5m long internal, i have a massive shed for all my junk!! but i dont want to park the boat diagonally though.

Valiant Vanguard 520 Limited RIB with 100HP 4 stroke, do you think this is a good option? or it sounds like it may be a bit overkill for my uses.

the campsite i mentioned is www.camping-des-mures.com if you look on google earth you can see the boat storage area next door, there are several campsites along this coastline.
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thanks yoyo i just looked up the menai boats website, are you happy with your setup, anything you would change? i am going up that way 22nd september i might take a look.
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for reference my 5.6m avon is actually 5.9m total length with the outboard down and thats not including the 1m sticking out the front on the drawbar. so to store my 5.6m i need 6.4m minimum

what i done was go look at ribs in my local marinas on their trailers and take a tape measure with you. i would think if you have 5.5m you will be lucky to get a 4.7m boat in there given the extra little an outboard tends to stick out (even down) and the drawbar.

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Old 09 September 2010, 09:38   #19
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My garage is 18' long (8' wide) and my Ribcraft 4.8m (2.1m beam) just fits (20mm height clearance). Still to fit the Tohatsu 60hp engine - but I'll post pictures for reference.
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Old 09 September 2010, 11:42   #20
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For reference my garage is 5.5m long and my Searider 4.7 on a reasonably compact trailer with 60hp on the back and the drawbar touching the garage door leaves around 1 foot clearance to walk round the engine. I don't think you will get anything over a 4.7/4.8 in without a lot of hassle...
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