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Old 12 November 2005, 15:49   #11
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serious question here codders.....

will you be going out in your new rib on your own or will you be typically accompanied by a friend?

myself i will typically be going out with a friend or with family as the norm, and if i was going across the channel i would defo go with another boat or with company, preferably a salty sea dog!!!
With the cost of fuel what do you think?

Just as well I have 12 seats really - thing that annoys me is that I will have to wait until summer to see the girls using the 7ft sunbed in the bow!!!
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Old 12 November 2005, 15:52   #12
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Frequently solo in my boat. (William - no- mates)
Never a problem.
Have always taken every precaution required or that I think is necessary.

However.....i am usually in or near the Solent (the back garden) or not far from it if help is needed.

Haven't needed it yet in 29 years but that doesn't mean I won't...so I always go out prepared for the worst and happy when the best occurs.

Circumstances may be different where you are due to lack of proximity to other people/boaters.

Bottom line....do what you think is right for the area in which you operate and...where the sea is concerned.....try to not put yourself at risk or any one else that may have to come to your assistance.

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Old 12 November 2005, 16:08   #13
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Don't worry about the flare pack spontaneously combusting it's a lot smaller risk than not having them and drowning.!

I used to go out on my boat all the time alone, in fact it was the reason I bought it, but Ribbing is a rather social activity as I found out.

It's my belief that you should carry appropriate safety equipment for the voyage in hand and the risks you have assessed, eg if you are worried about getting knocked out then you'd better be wearing a helmet (or if you've accepted a lift from a certain ETec owner). Also have a strategy for recovering yourself if things do go wrong and you leave the boat.

Which will obviously stop when you leave cos the Kill cord will activate !

From what I recall from your Posts you seem a fairly enthusiastic and sensible water rat so have you had any safety training! DO the CG do any over there. There are a few leaflets and stuff published by our coastguard and RNLI and a good book by the RYA if you'd like copies PM me and I'll send them to you, you might have to push me as I am administratively challenged!

On other thing is whem you are on your own you should maybe drop the acceptable boating conditions down a notch in case you do crap out!!
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Old 12 November 2005, 17:40   #14
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Great info. Pocket flares are something to consider. The channel I cross can be pretty nasty I've heard and witnessed on a crossing. However I am very keen to read multiple weather predictions for cross reference before even considering. I believe my safety standards are decent and my tolerance for conditions are quite low. I think crossing solo is probably doable for me. I'll have to give it a shot in the best of conditions and progress from there.

I initially thought going solo was something alot of rib.netters do frequently.
So what about the dye stuff? Anyone using something like that for daytime distress visibility?

Thanks for the replies, I'm def considering an eprib.
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Old 12 November 2005, 18:35   #15
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Just go canny. Don't rush anything, you'll end up winding yourself up a notch. Watch the conditions, don't go leaping off waves when there really is no need. If you're in a following sea, turn back and face it to see whether you still feel fine about having to return if it gets rougher. I wee rule I made myself long ago is, if I have to work the throttle to make progress, the conditions are rough.
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Old 12 November 2005, 18:40   #16
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Old 13 November 2005, 03:51   #17
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Personal Safety

1. Given the benefits of personal flares versus the cost it would be silly not to carry them on you if operating alone.
2. Persnal vhf V mobile no competition, vhf every time. Its bugger all use having a phone once your out of range, while you may be in range of other shipping on vhf who can relay message. Also a lot of rescue agencies use vhf direction finding as a search aid. Add to all of this that you can buy waterproof vhf (havent heard of a waterproof phone yet) that does not require the integrity of waterproof bag and i think you have the solution.
3. Finally if you do consider the epirb option please dont be tempted by the cheap as chips one from the guy in the pub. Its probably already registered which wont help if the coastguard call the owner and he says "no his fishing boat/yatch etc is fine in the marina". Also the less that can be done to encourage the illict trade in safety items, therefore creating a market and a demand for some people to "aquire" more the better.

Take the right precautions and alone is a cool way to go.
PS. If the people you take out are not that good in a boat, then at least show them. costs nothing to practice man overboard (with a fender or similar not yourself!)and show someone how to use the radio. Remember Chris Evens when he was involved with the loss of a skipper over the side and he couldnt use the vhf!!!!
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Old 13 November 2005, 03:58   #18
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If the people you take out are not that good in a boat, then at least show them. costs nothing to practice man overboard (with a fender or similar not yourself!)and show someone how to use the radio.
Good advice. Also worth practising in different conditions. I've almost killed the fender a few times

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Remember Chris Evens when he was involved with the loss of a skipper over the side and he couldnt use the vhf!!!!
Certainly was a needless tragedy.

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Old 16 November 2005, 22:07   #19
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I often used to just go with friends - but now my work situation means that I find myself alone midweek with bugger all to do... so I think about going on a rib journey quite often.... usually i would stay within sight of land or sometimes even just in the harbour but am considering a longer trip sometime early next year when the weather gets hotter....

i think that you have to take the same safety precautions whether solo or with friends really... especially if you are the only one competent to manage the boat...

i am not sure i would like to go 20 miles offshore solo - but then I only have a 5metre boat...
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Old 16 November 2005, 23:46   #20
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Boatster,
did that 26 mile crossing to Catalina earlier in the year and was surprised how quickly the sea state can change.
I was with my family and not solo;but must admit on the way back would have preffered that. (for their sake!
Having to constantly check on everyone and adapt the driving for everyones comfort was somewhat distracting. In hindsite we should have booked into a hotel overnight and made the morning trip back when the water was calmer.
I had done the coastguard safety courses and was armed to the teeth with safety gear. Made sure the inflatable PFD had crotch strap/with extra portable VHF and added signals in a heavy duty fanny pack(bum bag).Found that a useful way to keep all immediate needs handy in case you do get chucked out of the boat.Ziploc bag everything and you have a workable safety kit attached to you.
That stretch of water is well covered and I didnt think it warranted the epirb (,but did carry orange smoke and orange streamer as well as several types of flares.)
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