View Poll Results: Compulsory licensing and mandatory kill cords with fines for non compliance?
Compulsory licensing and mandatory kill cords with fines for non compliance 130 22.15%
Keep the current unregulated system with an emphasis on education 457 77.85%
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Old 22 May 2013, 18:33   #461
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Been running power boats for about 60 years, so I do not consider myself an amateur. Being paid to run a boat is not the dividing line between amateur and experienced.

Any boat which will plane must be handled with care. The faster and more responsive, the more is demanded from the helmsman. That is true from a 9 foot inflatable to the most ferocious go go boat out there.

Anyone with a little experience would know the value of a kill switch, but folks on this site have gone rather extreme with comments and requests for more demanding regulations, tee shirts, and other things. Someone posted accident statistics somewhere on the site, and the number which could be attributed to kill switches is underwhelming at best. You are in more danger in your bath or from other falls.

I would hate for the survivor of this accident to peruse the chatter, as it would be of no comfort. We do not know exactly what happened except that a terrible accident occurred.

Take away from this the value a working kill switch may have had and remember the lesson. In the meantime, efforts to support the injured with prayers would be a better approach.

I would hate to be seen wearing a tee shirt with a kill switch warning on it by anyone involved in the accident. That would be like rubbing salt in a fresh wound.
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Old 22 May 2013, 18:43   #462
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I would hate to be seen wearing a tee shirt with a kill switch warning on it by anyone involved in the accident. That would be like rubbing salt in a fresh wound.
A very good point made by frankc
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Old 23 May 2013, 03:10   #463
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I would hate to be seen wearing a tee shirt with a kill switch warning on it by anyone involved in the accident. That would be like rubbing salt in a fresh wound.
You say that but a father who lost a son to a kill cord accident has started a petition to make wearing them compulsory by law - and that was several years ago. I think if they can save a life it helps them make sense of their loss.
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Old 24 May 2013, 21:12   #464
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You say that but a father who lost a son to a kill cord accident has started a petition to make wearing them compulsory by law - and that was several years ago. I think if they can save a life it helps them make sense of their loss.
There is always some additional way to "save a life"... How far are you willing to go? How about outlawing fast food, cigarettes, alcohol, etc. and while we are at it we can require training, education and licensure to make sure people are adequate parents...
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There is always some additional way to "save a life"... How far are you willing to go? How about outlawing fast food, cigarettes, alcohol, etc. and while we are at it we can require training, education and licensure to make sure people are adequate parents...
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Old 25 May 2013, 09:07   #466
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People like to blame objects without realizing that the danger comes from human actions. Some feel that if enough laws are passed, they will be protected as if they live in a cocoon. At that point, your freedoms will be restricted just as movements are inside a cocoon.

One of the points which stands out to a boater from the US is all the restrictions and red tape which must be followed in Europe. Due to possible congestion, some of this is understandable, but asking for more regulations on the basis that you can change human nature is pretty far out. If all regulations were followed by people, we could eliminate auto accidents some believe. Human nature has to be factored in to realize that regulation will not yield the desired conclusions. It does provide a means for governments to increase monetary income however.

This terrible accident has brought out people who would restrict the actions of others in an effort to prevent such a thing to happen again. All the laws which may be passed will not prevent another accident.

Just look at the poor soldier who was murdered recently. The perps who did the act ignored both government and God's laws.

The best outcome from this accident would be for people to realize the importance of the kill switches. Hopefully the uproar over the accident will serve to remind people of that. It has caused me to reconsider whether I should wear my kill cord under more circumstances than I have in the past and to explain its use to others who are in my boat. I am in the process of teaching a grandson to operate a power boat at this time, so it is very timely for me.
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Old 28 May 2013, 03:21   #467
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How far are you willing to go?
I never said I thought it was a good idea, just that it was a way of a father trying to make sense of his loss.
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Old 28 May 2013, 07:24   #468
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People try to blame objects as they want something to blame in the event of a tragedy. We just had a small child die from a swimming pool accident. Should swimming pools be outlawed? They account for far more tragedies than kill cords.

A mad man murders someone with a gun or a knife and people want to blame the tool rather than the act of the murderer. That is very shallow thinking.
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Old 28 May 2013, 09:01   #469
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I must admit I have been reading this thread and thinking a few simple things like

1: when did anyone take notice and change behavior based on a T shirt.
2: as problems go this is tragic but compared to the problems we have the amount of deaths is minimal and though I would prefer it to be none surely we should prioritize and try and save the many first?
3: A law is only ever any good if it can be enforced and if they can not enforce the boating bi laws on a small loch what chance have we got with all of the uk waters.

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Old 30 May 2013, 07:09   #470
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You have closed your poll too soon ..... I guess you don't want any more people disagreeing with you.

The RYA has for years consistently opposed licensing/ registration of private leisure craft. So should you.
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