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Old 14 March 2005, 10:50   #11
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I wonder how this 1000m rolling exclusion zone can be better publicised
Bruce, the exclusion zone is covered in the 'Solent' section of Reed's Almanac and in the introduction to 'Solent Hazards' as well as being marked on charts, as Tim mentioned.

Jackeen, the point I am making is that careful passage planning should prevent both running aground and ignoring an exclusion zone. It's a lot less embarrassing (and safer) not to make the mistake in the first place!

Apologies to Bruce & Dave, I do not mean this to sound like I am 'preaching' at you! Just trying to help others to avoid making mistakes in the future.
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Old 14 March 2005, 11:12   #12
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Bruce..

So sorry you had a difficult time of it !
You guys certainly packed a lot into the weekend after the rest of us were finished on the cruise to Yarmouth !
Going round the Isle of Wight, getting some rays on the 'beach' (not you Ray Bradman!) and a night passage with knobs on!!!!!

Glad you're home safe and think you should write a book!
Lovely to meet you and Jo at the weekend ! We caught up with Dave and Harry on Sunday who gave us all the details of your extra - curricular exploits

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Old 14 March 2005, 11:31   #13
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I love the Night

Bruce , Jo and Phil,

if you want to get some night time experience I'll be happy to take you along with us on the Tug (its about a 7 hour trip) It will give you a remarkable insight into commercial traffic and help put some meat on the bones of your IRPCS knowledge!

We can take the rib with us and do the return journey by Rib if you want! That's a free of charge offer by the way

I am also quite willing to help you plan a nightime exercise and accompany you in Billy we could go from Southampron Water into Ashlett Creek (trickY!) and then on up to the Noodles. We can return or I'll just throw myself into Alum bay and you guys can go on to Lymington whatever you prefer!

Most of the Southmpton harbourmasters and a few of the Portsmouth pilots are buddies of mine and they are pretty cool guys, and not little hitlers! There is a big difference between ensuring the safety and security of the QM2 or 30,000 ton of crude oil plus the odd ill advised pleasure boat user and patrolling an imaginary line in Portsmouth harbourl

They were/are still pretty spooked by the accident during Cowes week. Some very serious injuries occured when a rib carrying seven people crahed into a two ton unlit mooring bouy at high speed at night. They are mindful that this was caused by a Rib and apart from that they have to deal with a lot of mistakes by pleasure boat owners.

The harbour master role that evening was to enforce an exclusion zone, which is clearly indicated on the charts by the way, he put the searchlight on you to stop you and to illuminate you for the concerned commercial skipper plus ensure your safety on the sea.

The harbour master hands out a little pamphlet re safety on the Solent did he give you a copy if not PM me your address and I will send you one also if you and Jo want to visit the VTS ( it's an impresive operation!) then that's not too hard to arrange!

I think Louises points about planning are bang on especially whilst you are building experience of the waters and craft. The big problem with a rib is the freedom it offers you so it's easy to go off at a tangent to the plan

I am very experience in a rib and have a V good knowledge of the Solent, so I had no excuse when I ran aground off Lee on the Solent. I too am glad that you are OK Remember whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger and wiser!
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Old 14 March 2005, 11:37   #14
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Nice one Stu

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I think Louses points about planning are bang on
Thanks Stuart. I'll forgive you for calling me 'Louse'!
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Old 14 March 2005, 11:52   #16
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Watch Out!!!

I did a post a little while ago about ships!! I drive ships.. we don't like little boats in the way no matter what they are or how far they think they are away safely or not!!
It is a case of especially in the Solent/ Southampton water and conversely all water users.. that you should all know the ROR and indeed understand the local bye laws of the area you are operating in.. You did say about lack of experience.. well maybe read some more books or look at the big charts of Southampton water it does give guidance..

It is harsh to be shouted at by these people.. they are usually ex seafarers who used to drive ships..

I drive ships for a living.. I know what they do.. they don't stop and at times down Southampton water they may have 1metre clearence on the sea bed.. if you get in the way they won't stop and their safety zone obviously is if you get too close you WILL get bollocked!!!!!

if you or anyone else would like details of what shipping does at sea or in coastal areas.. I will write another thread or PM/ email me...
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............to 15 pints of Stella ?
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............to 15 pints of Stella ?
well you wouldn't do it again in ahurry would you! so the wiser bit would be proved and you elbow forearm would certainly be strengthened during the Imbibing process
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