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Old 22 September 2005, 12:52   #11
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you know were i mean

its not my falt i cant spell,

all i can say is i know 2 fuel barge owners 1 solent 1 salcombe and from limited chats its far more costly to get it to the pump on the water than the pump on the road

you have to ask yourself whats it it for them

shifting more product at less margin has never made any one rich and thats what your asking a company to do. would you work harder for less money ??

you need a carrot wich is a garantee that if you dont buy your full alication you will pay 2p a liter more than normal pump price for what you have had now thats the way

now i know land garages are steel tanks in a concreet outer skin so as not to spill into the water table .

washed out to sea , LOL .. perhaps oil response should be told that in southmpton that they dont need to fix the problem when it happens just let it wash out to sea
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Old 22 September 2005, 13:00   #12
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I would think you have more chance negotiating a bulk discount at a Marina, than you would at a Petrol Station. Having said that, the Marina peeps have all the bases covered, you buy it when you see it, the chances of the next place being open, and cheaper are a dodgy way to run a boat.. On land, your always close(ish) to another source of fuel, at sea, your not..

High fuel costs, and running costs are a fact of life when taking a rib, (or any other petrol run, water based, money pit out..) A 2p discount over 2500 litres is 50, which is what it would cost some to take their rib to a particular filling station to fuel up at a discount..
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Old 22 September 2005, 13:02   #13
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washed out to sea , LOL .. perhaps oil response should be told that in southmpton that they dont need to fix the problem when it happens just let it wash out to sea
I think they would have their fingers crossed it would wash up the Itchen.. No-one would ever notice..
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Old 22 September 2005, 13:04   #14
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glad i dont swim up there
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Old 22 September 2005, 17:26   #15
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After me praising Lymington Yacht haven last week for their cheap (relative term) gas prices, filled up today @ 1.07 per litre! This at a time when the local gas station was @ 92p. Bummer. I suppose it entirely depends on what they pay for a tank themselves. Still, 1.07!
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Basically . the only way you are going to get "cheap" petrol is to buy it tax and duty free. The only way you are going to do that is buy it on the
Rotterdam spot market and /or have it deliverd to a barge/boat/rusting tin hulk OUT OF THE 12 mile limit. That way NOBODY can stop you- but you will be talking 1000's of liters. and then you will have to have somebody permently on the barge/boat/rusting tin hulk to supervise it.
It can be done.....BUT when word reaches C&E- they will proably raid it ( whether 12 mile limit or not) and have it closed down as a " danger to shipping"- I have been working on the problem for the last year. if I remember correctly are there ( use to be)- ANY LAID UP tankers in the channel currently?- you know the ones that cant pay their crews and cant pay docking fees. Thats the one to go for!!!!!!!!!!!

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Old 23 September 2005, 16:10   #17
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Do petrol stations pay the government the tax according to the date the fuel was sold or do they pay the tax when they buy the fuel from the supplier?
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Old 23 September 2005, 19:12   #18
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I believe price (and therefore duty) is levied on the delivered fuel which is why it varies so much. Theoretically, if you are a consumer, you can therefore gain on a rising market and lose heavily when the wholesale price falls as you will continue to purchase high cost stocks until they expire. It would follow therefore, that in volatile times, to not purchase in bulk.

It's all a bollocking rip off anyway. (End of intellectual argument)
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This is just my understanding - not fact so im prepared to be proven wrong - but isnt fuel taxed the same as alcohol at the point of manufacture. I would have thought that the tax was paid by the refinery.

I remember having a tour of a distillery once in scotland and there was a point in the manufacturing process where everything after that point was under lock and key - we were told that that was the taxation point in the manufacturing process so everything after that was strictly measured and controlled.
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Old 26 September 2005, 12:13   #20
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I approached MDL Marina's to set up a proper fuel account a few years back with a waterski club, dive club, sailing club and a powerboat club all joined together to get a discount.

At the end of it all we got a discount of 4p per litre.

Is it worth your time?

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