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Old 12 October 2003, 09:49   #11
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And here is another Rapier for 12 people + 2 . However for commercial use like this, diesel is the way to go. This Rapier 900 is fitted with the new Mercruiser 300 linked to a Bravo One drive. Speed 42 knots depending on sea conditions

This particular Rapier 900 was supplied to a Hotel in Norway for the pleasure of its guests.

Charles, in case you did not know both Rapier ribs are Parker 900 Rapier

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Old 12 October 2003, 10:00   #12
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Lynx

This is a pretty cool concept with bucket seats.
Osprey Lynx 28, you can have twin 225hp and have a topspeed around 63-65 knots with just driver, maybe you loose 5-6 knots with people in it, people sit safe in the seats and than you can push the boat even harder.
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Old 12 October 2003, 10:25   #13
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This is a pretty cool concept with bucket seats.
Osprey Lynx 28, you can have twin 225hp and have a topspeed around 63-65 knots with just driver, maybe you loose 5-6 knots with people in it, people sit safe in the seats and than you can push the boat even harder.
Sorry for the bad pic.

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Or to put it another way......your fare paying passengers get their spines compressed by being wedged into a bucket seat and being thrown around at 60kts whilst the driver safe in his enclosed cockpit has no idea whats happening to the passengers sitting behind him

I do like the sound of the paintballing expeditions tho'! (Imagination runs wild......now what you need is a fully automatic paintbal gun on a mount in the bow, two ribs and..................)
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Old 12 October 2003, 10:43   #14
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Wow! All theese cerious answers from respectable chartercompanies! Thank you guys.
My friend has a ribharter-company. (www.searafting.no) He drives a Revenger 29 with 2x225 two-stroke engines, it is a ligth boat like the Scorpion, and i makes 60 knots with 14 people. I have tried it! The boat runs great even when full.
It is defenately true that you don´t go faster than 25-30 knots i big waves, but on smooth water it is a whole lot of fun getting to the waves as well. To you guys in Sweeden who have problems when 14 people on board, what kind of problems would that be?
When I bye a rib with twin 250hp, woulden´t it be better if it could do 10 more knots if it still is the same length and the same amount of passengers?
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Old 12 October 2003, 11:07   #15
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Yes, if your boat has more speed then that can be cool, but it can also means that any accidents can be more serious.

In my opinion if you want to have a hull that is going to run Charter work then it rally has to be strong.

I agree with Alan with that many people on board you definitely want to see your passengers whilst you are driving.
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Old 12 October 2003, 11:39   #16
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Safety

Offcourse it`s good to have control over the passengers, the cockpit (there is other consoles) on the Osprey Lynx is not my first choice (think the boat is in UK) but still i prefer the bucket seats, sitting more comfortable and safe in them, no chance of spinning around in the seats.
And if you want to se passenger you have to put the passenger in the front, wich means bigger risk of injuires and passenger flying around in the front when you jumping in the waves, specially in speeds around 60 knots, so were ever you put them and the drivers there is always different opinions of wich is the best placement. Also when it comes to light boats, they are great in your fjords on flat water, but as heavier as better, safe and controled etc when you come out on the real ruff seas.
Must missunderstand me with problems with 14 people, we don`t have any problems with it, it`s the 300hp Mercury that is the problems, these racing machines can`t really handle a 10,5m boat with 14 people, to much weigth, these machines want`s a light boat, they brake all the time. these boats are doing 70 knots.
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Old 12 October 2003, 12:45   #17
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Searafting.no went out with their Revenger 29 in 6 m.waves last wednesday.
they perform perfectly, exept getting the passengers all wet when riding with the waves and plowing into the wave in front.
They go so hard that you won´t belive it. I once stood in front when 4m. waves and I was total after 5 minutes. So I can´t see why a heaver boat should perform so differently when it already is filled with people and gas.
When I was standing in the front, I had to flex my feet and use every muchle to take the slam everytime we landed between the high and short waves. If I had been sitting in a bucket- seat.......
Petrow, You say that you have problems with the Mercury, I have heard rumers about a chartercompany in Stockholm which had problems with big Yamahas, and then they changed to Mercury, is this u?
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Old 12 October 2003, 13:08   #18
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hi

No it`s not me, we have 3 225 optimax but changing them to another brand, we been having around 10 brakedowns on our optimaxes, we had one Osprey Seaharrier 6,6m with a Yamaha 200 HPDI (52 knots, 6 seatings) boat runned around 350 hours without any problems, and know there is another guy doing chartering with it and engine just goes and goes, pretty strange how different it can be, ha ha.
I tried go in on the link you have but it does`nt work.
I believe you about the experience you had in 4m waves, offcourse it helps when it`s fully loaded with people and fuel, but still, one day it`s not 14 people onboard, maybee a charter with 5 people and than you will have the advantage by having a heavy boat.
It`s always hard to get a boat that is perfect for all conditions.
One thing that you also should look into, i guess you will drive pretty much in open sea, a hard nose boat is a recomendation, a rib with tubes in bow can be bad sometimes, diving in waves time after time is hard for the tubes, specially big boats with twin engines, the pressure on the tubes in bow is really tuff and after a while the tubes can get loose from hull.
There is more and more companies that start to have a model with hard noses.
I was down in Italy on a competition 2 weeks ago, see www.aquaraid.com or our team homepage www.narcotic.be and there you will see the advantage with hard noses.
They just dive thrue the waves without any damages on the tubes and the boat will not a have quick stop in the same way as a boat with tubes in bow.
Jag körde faktiskt en riktigt härlig resa längs hela norska kusten i början av sommaren, startade i Kirkenes och slutade i Oslo, jag hoppade av i din hemstad Trondheim.
Fantastisk upplevelse, vi körde med 3 st Opsrey Falcon 8,2m.
Du kan gå in under galleri här på Rib net så ser du lite bilder från resan.


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Old 12 October 2003, 15:15   #20
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Charles, in case you did not know both Rapier ribs are Parker 900 Rapier

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I'm well aware of this - thanks Andre - I thought I would give the rib a 'plug'
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