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Old 17 August 2004, 08:39   #11
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ALSO, with a trailer behind, you are allowed an all up weight , or Gross Train Weight of 5500kg , but the tow car/jeep cant be more than 3500kg

PS I often tow at 6500-7000 GTW, Police dont have a clue
Plod and his Ministry Pals were out here today stopping everthing with a trailer. First time I went passed there was 3 4x4s parked up beside the portable weighbridge , two with mini diggers on them and one with a Binliner (bayliner) about 30' long, ther were still there 2 hours later.
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Old 17 August 2004, 09:29   #12
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I do a lot of work with the Met Police and our ongoing blitz on commercial vehicles has included towing vehicles and VOSA (the old vehicle inspectorate) can have you over a portable wieghbridge in seconds. Its quite amazing watching them take apart a HGV in 10 mins. On one stop session 15 HGvs went home on a low loader with prohibition notices.

Interestingly they pulled one rib and two plastic fantastics. Both the plastic fantastics had gas on board and no TREM cards and the rib was massively nose heavy but it was reloaded and let off.

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Old 17 August 2004, 09:51   #13
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TREM cards.
What are they and is this something else I should have?
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Old 17 August 2004, 09:59   #14
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TREM cards.
What are they and is this something else I should have?
They are the Orange Plates displayed on wagons carrying hazardous material in large quantities. If you have a very small cylinder on a boat for private resaons you should be OK.

I don't know the quantities which mean you have a TREM plate. Speak to your local traffic police and ask for the HAZ-MAT Officer.

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Old 17 August 2004, 10:20   #15
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They are the Orange Plates displayed on wagons carrying hazardous material in large quantities. If you have a very small cylinder on a boat for private resaons you should be OK.
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Ta mate. Not a problem for me then. Only large amount of gas on board is curry & beer induced.
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Max towing weights and particularly sizes is always a nightmare as it can be dependent on so many variables. Not only the towing vehicle but the purpose of its use can also be a factor.

Boat trailers cause even more of a problem as the whole drawbar length thing comes into play! Its difficult to get an answer that will cover all areas and the only way to find out is to contact the DVLA and discuss your exact circumstances. They have always been good to be fair and we've hit them with some good questions. Lifeboat trailers have brought about the most interesting conversations.

How come no-ever seems to get stopped and i'm pulled regularly??
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Don't drive so slowly in certain parts of town then!
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In the UK I wouldnt get away with it,

In more than 10 years of driving, vans, trucks and towing I have never been wieghted once or had a vehicle check in Ireland. the only exception being dipped for green diesel buy the Customs (red Diesel in the UK)

I was stoped in the UK twice, once in a truck, and I was wieghed, and one coming off a ferry with a yacht behind, which they checked lights and tyres, that happened in france too, but the also messures the lenght of the tow and it was 19.5m, which is longer than a truck, but they let me away because of the overhang rule, and a 'gift' of a bottle of whiskey
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The trouble is none of our laws ever make sense! Surely there is something wrong with a system where you don't know if you are doing anything wrong or not!

To me I know if I break into someone's house, mug an old lady or rape someone I am doing something very wrong and quite rightly should be punished for it - what i don't like is to find that suddenly you can be classified as a criminal for the slightest thing - and good old Blair is now making things even worse by making it ok for the police to arrest someone for the slightest thing - even dropping litter!

There are some crazy laws that nobody really understands on storing and transporting petrol - you can't legally BUY more than 10 litres in a can at any one time so to legally fill a jerry can you must half fill it - go and pay - then put the other 10 litres into it!!!
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