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Old 18 October 2014, 13:47   #11
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Hey.. great minds think alike Peter C...I was looking for that video too..the tropic sea one :-D

I was also going to add...

Thanks Jambo ..I suspected that Video was not a good example of securing a boat off a beach in an exposed bay ... and even if it was the way the boat buddy worked..it was worth pointing out to the OP that it is not a good practice to have the main anchor tied to the stern. It does look a good system if connecting the anchor and boat buddy to the bow though.

I cant comment of the boat buddy stretch in a wind MatfromPoland ..but I wouldn’t be too happy anchoring and leaving a boat 10 meters or so off an exposed rocky beach with F4-5 winds and swell .. even with a conventional anchor system unless I had no other option. The anchor dragging would be my worry.

If it was a regular spot that I was visiting..and the bay was sandy as in the OP,s photo ..I would prefer to put in my own mooring if at all possible. I do this when Im on holiday for a few nights. At the lowest tide .. I will sink a three foot galvanised iron screw into the sand .. Attach a lump of heavy chain ..then a rope to a buoy.



IMO Far more secure for a small boat than an anchor that I don’t know how well it has gripped the bed. No need for a rope to shore either as the boat will always point into wind and wave on its own.
But I need a small inflatable to get out to the boatwhen the tide is in. I also have to make sure that when the tide goes out..there are no nasty rocks within the radius on the mooring buoy ..in case the boat settles on them as the sea runs out.
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Old 18 October 2014, 17:48   #12
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An alternative to the Anchor Buddy.



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Old 18 October 2014, 18:41   #13
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Duh! I just realized the OP is in Phuket...anchor the boat offshore with conventional ground tackle then swim in wearing your shorts Water is warm enjoy the swim. It is actually what we do on the California coast but we wear a drysuit and fins.

This is pretty much how I do it too, as shown in the post above.

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Old 19 October 2014, 01:21   #14
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Yours is just a small RIB ..so for peace of mind.. I think I would just beach it for the night. If possible..using the tide to leave it high and dry ..then refloat it in the morning. (Assuming tide times are suitable)
I doubt the resort would let me beach it. Moreover, it would require 4-6 man to beach it IMO. And I'm so afraid of scratching the gelcoat.

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To anchor it..you will need to provide more information.. ie ..how you intend getting ashore if you anchor off shore. How tidal is the bay..is does it go out far.. how exposed to swell ... is the wind direction changeable etc.
The water is warm and not so deep, we can get ashore by water

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... I will take another rope from the rear of the boat...as I wade ashore .. and tie it off on the beach. I always like a line tied to land. The sea anchor has a good lump of chain attached to the anchor..to absorb the shock of swell pulling on it. You also have to consider how deep the water will be when you want the boat back if using chest waders.
You're confirming my first thoughts. I strongly need a long rope to attach to the beach.

In that precise case, do you think I can attach to the (already installed) rope going from the beach to the water? How?
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Old 19 October 2014, 01:22   #15
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An alternative to the Anchor Buddy.

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I used the same technique in front of renting apartments in Greece.
But owner dived barrel filled with cement ... There is a chain between this barrel and buoy.

Another vote for anchor attached to bow.
Below mentioned my inflatable (anchor on the back, 10kg, rope 11m, deep 2m)
and rope between bow and rocks on the beach.

I have made 2 mistakes.
1. Anchor attached to transom (but it seems to be natural when beaching)
2. rope stretched between bow and rocks (you need to have some rubber or leave slack)
So you have a picture before:
Before:


Meltemi has started and first waves caused water flows over transom and one of the biggest (1m) wave lift boat up and put it gently in the center of the beach:


It is inflatable and I have transom wheels so after 2 hrs when wind calms it was not a problem to drag boat to Sea and continue trip.
I have used below mentioned anchor (rubber anchor for inflatables 2x5kg)



In 2015 I will use RIB HIGHFIELD OM540DL and have headache "how to anchor near wild beach". Beaches are mostly pebbles in Greece.
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Old 19 October 2014, 02:47   #16
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I have learned some things after this:

1. Use shock-absorber/damper or elastic line for anchor and moor ropes.
2. Anchor on bow
3. Rope length for anchor have to be 6 x depth (this rule you can find on tests for motor boat licence in Poland 5 - 6 x depth)

Both items can helps boat flows over waves and do not lift anchor.

3. Avoid open bays or exposed on wind/waves.

Sometimes it is really hard when you find fantastic place without people not to stay and snorkel :



4. Always Anchor and moor together (please remember about my case and use some rubber or very elastic line like like LIROS MOOREX or LIROS PORTO). I saw rubber dampers on moor line but I wonder if rubber can be exposed to salt water.
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I never tried to beach my RIB yet, but how many guys should we be to do so?
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Mat you need to add some chain to your anchore to keep the line down on the sea bed, this will then do the job of the dampening the anchore line
5 metres for your new rib and a Bruce type anchor of 5kg would give you some thing that is not going any ware 5 x water depth if leaving over night, but for a beach stop 3 X water depth will be plenty.
Stern line to beach works well but remember to either mark it or weight it down so not to cheese off other boaters!
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This is just a running morring which works well I have used it before but it is a right faff and with tide going in or out you need a lot of rope + again the rope needs to sink out of other boats props!
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@Nick - many thanks. I have planed to buy Bruce type of anchor. Many people in Croatia found it as perfect solution. I was thinking about chain - many thanks for explanation why I need it. You have solved all my concerns in one post

@andaman - perfect configuration: 2 persons. Skipper seat in front of console and one crew member put anchor to water.

I did it in SIB alone but I keep anchor near me:
1. turn back to beach
2. put anchor to water (gently)
3. go back to beach
4. turn off, tilt engine (remember to have always kill kord and not lose it)
5. jump to water and go to tight rope to beach

It is what I did on SIB full of kids. On RIB be better to have some help (one person at least)
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