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Old 18 November 2009, 11:21   #41
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I could be a bit controversiaial here and suggest if you've been sailing lasers, presumably you have a bouyancy aid?

As for the fuel, yes you can go miles on a small engine (Rhu - Tignabruach & back with my old SR4 / Sus 25), but if you get swamped & the tank is "poisoned", for the money a second tank will cost .... Even if it;s just a 20L that you park under the seat. Two hulk 30L tanks will sit happily between the transom braces. Granted they wipe out your entire rear deck space......

It depends what you're doing. If it's all rescue boat for dinghies stuff , the deck space will be infinitely more useful than an extra 20L of fuel. Alternatively, if you are cruising, spare fuel has it's advantages but you'll be at the helpm for 99% iof the trip, so the rear deck might as well not be there... and if you are cruising, it's more fun to go "in company" so then you have a second boat as backup...... I didn't have an aux for nearly 2 years, but was always out with another rib or playing rescue boat, so didn't need one.

One thing is for sure. Once you've got the boat, your "needs list" will change as you use it for different things.
Yes, i do of course have a buoyancy aid, but for comfort and practicability i'd rather spend 70 on a Lifejacket. I should have enough to buy some essential accessories, but as you say, a buoyancy aid would do the job.

I don't think i'll be going too far afield, and if i do decide to go further, then i can always add another tank. I think i'll just have to wait and see. It depends how the boats laid out when i get it, i might not have room for extra fuel.

Anchor, Lifejacket, VHF etc. are higher priority than a second fuel tank. All these things are starting to add up! I think it really will depend on what boat i get and how equipped it is.
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Old 18 November 2009, 11:27   #42
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Yes, i do of course have a buoyancy aid, but for comfort and practicability i'd rather spend 70 on a Lifejacket.
But a Bouyancy aid is a lot warmer........

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All these things are starting to add up! I
Welcome to the world of Ribs......


Like I said, the toy list will evolve as you start to use the boat.
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Old 18 November 2009, 12:43   #43
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But a Bouyancy aid is a lot warmer........
True... come to think of it, i used a Bouyancy Aid for my course, and didn't really notice it.

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Welcome to the world of Ribs......


Like I said, the toy list will evolve as you start to use the boat.
It's already started and i don't even have the boat!

Thanks for the advice
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Old 18 November 2009, 13:28   #44
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Hey Lewis

One thing you should watch out for Lewis is the engine, there are a lot of SR4's out there that have a two stroke outboard that balances it, though you do need to watch it on fuel, Doesn't always go done well with them (drink alot basically).....

Don't just look at the boat and the engine but look at wat comes with it. . .eg VHF (my area), steering ect.....

U knw the trouble that camy has had with his engine which is two stroke, yamaha. . .and the trailer obv....
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Old 18 November 2009, 14:07   #45
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One thing you should watch out for Lewis is the engine, there are a lot of SR4's out there that have a two stroke outboard that balances it, though you do need to watch it on fuel, Doesn't always go done well with them (drink alot basically).....

Don't just look at the boat and the engine but look at wat comes with it. . .eg VHF (my area), steering ect.....

U knw the trouble that camy has had with his engine which is two stroke, yamaha. . .and the trailer obv....
I think i could argue with that though. Luckily for Camy, 2 strokes are a lot easier to repair, and i don't think a 40/50hp 2 stroke would be too different on fuel consumption from a 4stroke, with their weight and so on...
What does Ribnet have to say?

I was actually going to ask that. I read that the Yam 50 is the most popular modern(ish) engine choice for SR4's, but what's the most common on older ones? What should i be looking out for?

I've been talking about accessories. I think i should be able to save up to 3000 by next year meaning i can get a good boat and should have some left over to spend on toys.
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Old 18 November 2009, 14:17   #46
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One thing you should watch out for Lewis is the engine, there are a lot of SR4's out there that have a two stroke outboard that balances it, though you do need to watch it on fuel, Doesn't always go done well with them (drink alot basically).....
at the size of engine on a SR4 (prob 50HP max) even a very thirsty 2 stroke isn't going to burn stupid amounts of fuel if you can learn that the throttle is an analogue control and not just WOT/tickover. Worst case it will be burning about 20 an hour, maybe half that if you are sensible. Bearing in mind that the engine will likely be reasonably old to be in budget 2 strokes are much simpler and potentially much cheaper to fix.
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whilst a trailer is an important part of the package and a good condition one important if it will ever be going anywhere except the dinghy park, I think you would be ill advised to pick your boat based on its gizmos. As 9d280 has already highlighted almost all these are non-essential, can be bought specific to your needs with up-to-date kit relatively cheaply. Vendors often attach too high a "mental" value to the electronics. Hull, tubes and engine (and possibly trailer) are the things to concern yourself with for a trouble free experience. On the engine front - I would suggest that Power-trim-and-tilt is potentially more important than you realise - its the one thing I would go back and add to my spec if I could.
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On a 3k budget for the boat, you won't get much of a 4-stroke motor. A decent 50hp 4-stroke is worth 2k min on its own.
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Old 18 November 2009, 14:57   #48
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On a 3k budget for the boat, you won't get much of a 4-stroke motor. A decent 50hp 4-stroke is worth 2k min on its own.
Yeah, and it's very unlikely to get a 4-stroke on a SR4. Probably far too heavy!
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The nobber Hugo Montswannery-Gob did a review of a SR4 with a Yam F50 on RIB International last year. He reckoned it was stern heavy, but perhaps he was carrying the fuel too far aft - can't remember the detail, but maybe someone could dig out the article.
Afterwards, BHG were trying to sell the boat for around 7k IIRC

Anyway, you're better off with something like a 3-cylinder Yam 50 2-stroke.
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at the size of engine on a SR4 (prob 50HP max) even a very thirsty 2 stroke isn't going to burn stupid amounts of fuel if you can learn that the throttle is an analogue control and not just WOT/tickover. Worst case it will be burning about 20 an hour, maybe half that if you are sensible. Bearing in mind that the engine will likely be reasonably old to be in budget 2 strokes are much simpler and potentially much cheaper to fix.

whilst a trailer is an important part of the package and a good condition one important if it will ever be going anywhere except the dinghy park, I think you would be ill advised to pick your boat based on its gizmos. As 9d280 has already highlighted almost all these are non-essential, can be bought specific to your needs with up-to-date kit relatively cheaply. Vendors often attach too high a "mental" value to the electronics. Hull, tubes and engine (and possibly trailer) are the things to concern yourself with for a trouble free experience. On the engine front - I would suggest that Power-trim-and-tilt is potentially more important than you realise - its the one thing I would go back and add to my spec if I could.
Aggreed.

What would be a good engine which incorporates PTT which i could get in budget?
I know a lot who have bought without it and regret it now. It's not easy to fit.
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