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Old 14 July 2011, 11:50   #1
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Greetings! How to get my hours up - Scotland

Hello Ribnet people.

I did my RYA2 a few weeks ago. Don't think I want to buy a boat just yet. I had hoped that I could hire boats, specifically RIB's but this doesn't seem possible here. So how do I get some miles in? I thought about doing Safety Boat at the local club for more experience (if I learn to sail a bit). Happy to go halfers on fuel with anyone, but maybe I shouldn't hang about the docks with a couple of hundred quid in my pocket looking for action
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Old 14 July 2011, 12:11   #2
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Safety boat at a local club might be a way to get hours up but it won't get you a lot of real experience, except (and even then not always) in recovering capsized dinghies and towing boats. Much of the time can be spend at tick over bobbing around. So you won't get much experience of passage planning, cruising, etc. At some clubs you won't even do much high speed stuff (small local areas), and may not even go out in particularly rough conditions. Depending on the size and organisation of the club they may also want a safety boat ticket (especially if you are not familiar with sailing dinghies), and you may find there is a "heirarchy" where a new, non-sailing person wanting to play with their powerboats will be viewed with suspicion. Of course that is not always the case.

There are some places in Scotland you can hire RIBs but they won't be cheap and a PB2 with no other experience might(?) ring alarm bells.
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Old 14 July 2011, 13:15   #4
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Edinburgh. Happy to travel a bit though.

Polwart, thanks. Safety Boat maybe not ideal then, though they (Port Edgar) may put you through the SB course if you show commitment.

Where can you hire RIB's? My Google skills are defeating me on this one.
Don't mind being escorted, may even prefer it.
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Old 14 July 2011, 14:09   #5
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What do you want experience of? Are you trying to do something specific (e.g. get hours for a qualification, get experience cruising long distances, get enough experience to decide what to buy etc).

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Redbay RIB charter West Coast Scotland skippered and bareboat -- 11m Redbay based in Craobh Haven

Scottish Rib Charter -- based in Largs not sure what their current boat is.

Markhor Charter | Yacht Charter Guide -- based at port edgar not sure if they are still going

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I don't think anyone does a kind of "flotilla holiday" type approach. If you have enough money you can probably go to any of the commercial rib operators and/or schools and pay for a day with one of their instructors and boats. But bear in mind that that instructor/boat could be earning money from maybe 3 students on a PB2 course so expect to pay accordingly!

e.g. Someone like the people who post on here as SeaSkills (Ian) or Speedy (Greg) who run Seaskills (Oban and North Berwick?) and Seaforce (Glasgow) respectively.


Whilst I think these are both great ways to get experience and either could work out cheaper than owning a significant rib that doesn't get used much, if the idea is just to get afloat as much as possible then a small sib might be the most affordable route. You may of course find someone here willing to let you use their boat/crew for them - but I wouldn't assume that people will be rushing to meet strangers on the internet!
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You can hire monster-sized ribs from Madera in Holland:

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You can hire monster-sized ribs from Madera in Holland:

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Certainly if he is prepared to travel a bit further then he could rent from Solent Rib Charter or a few people in the South West (google plymouth bare boat rib charter or something similar) and make a weekend of it. Indeed if you've got enough money they'll even deliver the boat to where you want it, or you can tow it their yourself.
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Polwart make a great point - for 1k to 2k you can easily find a decent SIB and engine - go out in that as much as you can starting with flat seas/fine days and staying close to shore and you will learn so much. As you build in confidence progress to use it in more choppy water. A small boat really teaches you to read the waves and respect for the sea as well as many of the boat handling skills that apply to a larger vessel.
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I was in the same sort of position this time last year. I don't think you'd be long in running up a grand or two in bare boat charters, I got an SR4 for 1500 which to me seems a better spend. Small enough that launching and recovering on your own is easy, robust enough to take a good range of conditions... it's been a brilliant boat for learning on. It's needed a few jobs doing and it's needed kitted out with equipment and fittings which is all part of the experience. I wasn't thinking of it as the boat I wanted when I got it, just a temporary measure to do a job however I'll be really sad when it's time to swap it for something bigger as I've grown quite attached to it. I might not make my money back on it but I doubt it will be far off and it's worth it for what I taught myself with it.

I figured I needed to bite the bullet and get something while it was all still fresh in my mind rather than cadging days out or charters or whatever. If it's there on your driveway then you'll use it, nipping out after work and the like that you couldn't really do on someone else's boat. It was an expensive hit but the rewards are worth it. Doing your first real passage in your own boat is something you won't forget.
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PB2 only "allows" you to drive up to 10mtr rib.
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