Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 27 June 2016, 12:29   #1
RIBnet supporter
 
Explore Cowal's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Dunoon
Boat name: Tonto
Make: Honwave 3.8 Airfloor
Length: 3m +
Engine: Honda BF20 4st
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 108
Greetings from Argyll

Hello.

Currently own a Sea Kayak but after the weekend I'll hopefuly be putting it up for sale. Have decided to look at a SIB as replacement as I still want to visit remote shores for some camping and Bothy visits.

The bonus being..........
  • Can still use the car alone to transport it
  • Can take the family out ( if they behave)
  • Can launch from remote spots
  • Can drag it up a beach with the transom wheels fitted, saves anchoring and a paddle.

I've checked a few threads on the forum, so I've decided a V hull would be ideal and something about 3.2 - 3.8mts in size. Boat no more than 50Kg and similar for the outboard. Looked at a Honwave 3.2 with a 10hp engine but undecided as yet.

Thanks,

Fraser.
__________________

__________________
Explore Cowal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 June 2016, 12:37   #2
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: East Anglia
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF20 EFI
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,276
Hello Fraser and welcome to the forum.

You have some brilliant boating areas on your doorstep.

A sensible size/weight inflatable will still give much of the car portability of your kayak and as you say will get the family out too.

The Honwave range are all decent SIBs... and great value new in particular.

To offer advice it would help to know if you were thinking new or used?

David
__________________

__________________
Fenlander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 June 2016, 12:49   #3
RIBnet supporter
 
Explore Cowal's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Dunoon
Boat name: Tonto
Make: Honwave 3.8 Airfloor
Length: 3m +
Engine: Honda BF20 4st
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 108
Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenlander View Post
Hello Fraser and welcome to the forum.

A sensible size/weight inflatable will still give much of the car portability of your kayak and as you say will get the family out too.

The Honwave range are all decent SIBs... and great value new in particular.

To offer advice it would help to know if you were thinking new or used?

David
Thanks for the welcome David

The 3.2 Honwave and 10hp was a new package, however this is just a tad more expensive than my Kayak

There seems to be some good second hand packages about also.

Even if i found a second hand boat then sourced an engine, that'd be good.

I have no mechanical skills, a new engine would be ideal although expensive.

Just check the Classifieds on here, a Honwave 3.8. Hmmmm

Plus i'd need to drop the topic casually into a conversation with the wife.
__________________
Explore Cowal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 June 2016, 12:51   #4
RIBnet admin team
 
Poly's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: 2 stroke YAM 20 HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 10,114
How big is the family? 3.2+10HP might not be ideal... or it might be.
How big is the car? A SIB+fueltank+engine+kit (anchor, ropes, paddles etc) and a family of waterproofs and lifejackets etc takes up a lot of space.
__________________
Poly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 June 2016, 12:59   #5
RIBnet supporter
 
Explore Cowal's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Dunoon
Boat name: Tonto
Make: Honwave 3.8 Airfloor
Length: 3m +
Engine: Honda BF20 4st
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 108
Quote:
Originally Posted by Poly View Post
How big is the family? 3.2+10HP might not be ideal... or it might be.
How big is the car? A SIB+fueltank+engine+kit (anchor, ropes, paddles etc) and a family of waterproofs and lifejackets etc takes up a lot of space.
Hello Poly.

I have a Subaru Forester ( an estate ) with roof box, there's two adults and one 4yr old. I also have access to a wee trailer if required. I'd mostly go out solo or with a friend camping etc.

Thanks,

Fraser.
__________________
Explore Cowal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 June 2016, 13:00   #6
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: East Anglia
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF20 EFI
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,276
If you were considering a Honwave 3.2/Honda 10hp package new think about the 15hp. It weighs the same as the 10hp and for just 190 extra you have 50% extra power which would be useful and greatly help resale.

Honwave T32IE2 & 10hp - 15hp Honda outboard

If you went up to the 3.8 Honwave you would have loads of extra room but really need to go to a 15hp or ideally 20hp.

Edit:

>>>have a Subaru Forester ( an estate ) with roof box, there's two adults and one 4yr old...

I think you'll be fine for space then. We have used two different estates and within the estate area (seats not folded) we get in...

3.6-3.8m SIB in bag, 15-20hp outboard, 25l tank, 12l spare tank, transom wheels, footpump, elec pump, 3 dry bags of kit, 4 lifejackets, wet weather clothing for 4 etc etc.
__________________
Fenlander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 June 2016, 13:40   #7
RIBnet supporter
 
Explore Cowal's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Dunoon
Boat name: Tonto
Make: Honwave 3.8 Airfloor
Length: 3m +
Engine: Honda BF20 4st
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 108
Thanks for the advice. The extra hp for no weight gain seems great, for little additional cost.

I'm undecided on size, was sure of a 3.2 but now looking at 3.6-3.8

Guess it's a fine balance on whats manageable out the water and what it returns in the water.
__________________
Explore Cowal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 June 2016, 14:02   #8
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: East Anglia
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF20 EFI
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,276
>>>undecided on size, was sure of a 3.2 but now looking at 3.6-3.8

The general advice on here for years has been to buy a used outfit at a fair price then when you inevitably find with experience your ideal is something else selling on will cause little or no loss.

Advice also was to buy a 2006 or earlier 2-stroke engine as they are (were?) loads lighter than the new 4-strokes. However the makers have managed to lighten their 4-strokes in some sizes where the overall balance of factors might fall to the 4-stroke.

Buying a Honwave SIB new exposes you to minimal loss if you do swap in the future as they are such value new they don't have far to drop. However a new outboard can lose a fair bit so you need to try and get that right first time if possible.
__________________
Fenlander is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 June 2016, 14:21   #9
RIBnet supporter
 
Explore Cowal's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Dunoon
Boat name: Tonto
Make: Honwave 3.8 Airfloor
Length: 3m +
Engine: Honda BF20 4st
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 108
Good point. I'd try and get the boat first if not a package. I know a few people that do sailing or have small fishing boats, could always blag an outboard. My mate has got one of the 9.8 Tahatsu? thingys, it's a 2 stroke. Think they get a good write up, quite light too.
__________________
Explore Cowal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 27 June 2016, 15:29   #10
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: East Anglia
Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki DF20 EFI
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 3,276
The 9.8 Tohatsu is one of the holy grail outboards... so easy to manage and about 10kg lighter than many 10hp models.
__________________

__________________
Fenlander is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 12:21.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.