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Old 09 April 2010, 07:48   #1
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water logged transom

Hi all well wated a couple of hours yester day and to day putting on poxy bloody RONSEAL wood filler ,and what a load of crap,had to take it all off,proberly did ntdry out because transom a little waterlogged,,,,,,,,,got wood preserver,,,,,,,,,,,what do i do ,,,,,,,,,,,,,whats the best filler from b and q really wanna fill it today,hope someone can help please
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Old 09 April 2010, 12:48   #2
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Well i got a 2 part filler ,done the 2 holes that i wanted,rubbed it down,and have painted it black with a weatherproof paint,will rub it down,im hopeless with wood,im a Brickie,lol,only painted one side,very flakey on the bottom of the transom on the outside ,were it would be in the water,bit of a concern,hoping with a few layers of paint and varnish it will keep it stable?cosmeticlythinking of cutting 2 templates of the transom sticking them on,screwed as well and waterproofing them,so a nice flat tidy surface,as i say im crap with wood ,and had a right old day of it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,good idea,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or not?
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Old 09 April 2010, 15:18   #3
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Is the wood wet/damp? Is it soft? Is it like this all over? Has the old paint/varnish peeled off? Is the wood underneath discoloured?
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why not just let the wood dry out then rub it down to bare wood, then put 50% varnish and 50% white spirit for the first coat.
Then put on about 4 coats of varnish to seal it all in.

As for holes, why not just get some nice stainless bolts, put a buit of silicone around them and put them in the holes ?

As for black paint on a flaky transom ha ha ha that sounds bloody horrible to me.
And it definitely wont last.

You need to get the wood dry or it will rot very fast if water is sealed in.

Will need atleast a week of proper good dry weather to get the transom anywhere near dry.



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why not just let the wood dry out then rub it down to bare wood, then put 50% varnish and 50% white spirit for the first coat.
Then put on about 4 coats of varnish to seal it all in.

As for holes, why not just get some nice stainless bolts, put a buit of silicone around them and put them in the holes ?

As for black paint on a flaky transom ha ha ha that sounds bloody horrible to me.
And it definitely wont last.

You need to get the wood dry or it will rot very fast if water is sealed in.

Will need atleast a week of proper good dry weather to get the transom anywhere near dry.



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DON'T use silicone! Use Sikaflex 291.

Did you mean thinners rather than white spirit? White spirit is oily.
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DON'TDid you mean thinners rather than white spirit? White spirit is oily.
No .. if its varnish you dilute a first coat onto bare wood with white spirit, thats for normal woods, dunno about marine stuff though if its any different ?
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Yes i did mean white spirit.

When sanding down any wood including marine play, its best to seal the wood with a
50-50 mix of varnish and white spirit.
Also a good marine varnish is much better than just any old varnish.
Blakes and international have always been known to give good results on marine
varnished exteriors.

White spirit and varnish help to penetrate the wood and give a long lasting seal.

Ask any good marine varnish person and they will tell you this.

Thinners is just what it says, thinning agent.

AS for silicone vers sikaflex, ive never had any probs with silicone but wouldnt like to
say if sikaflex is better.
Either way it does need a compound of some sorts to place around any bolts/ fixings.


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Yes i did mean white spirit.

When sanding down any wood including marine play, its best to seal the wood with a
50-50 mix of varnish and white spirit.
Also a good marine varnish is much better than just any old varnish.
Blakes and international have always been known to give good results on marine
varnished exteriors.

White spirit and varnish help to penetrate the wood and give a long lasting seal.

Ask any good marine varnish person and they will tell you this.

Thinners is just what it says, thinning agent.
Fair-seemed odd to me, but I'm far better with metal than wood.
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AS for silicone vers sikaflex, ive never had any probs with silicone but wouldnt like to
say if sikaflex is better.
Either way it does need a compound of some sorts to place around any bolts/ fixings.


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Silicone is the sperm of satan on boats.Almost every siliconed part I've seen has had to be sorted out eventually due to water ingress.It doesn't stick well enough. Sika or equivalent specialist marine sealants every time.
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Many thanks gets,gonna seal it good n proper,sturdy tramsom there,just got to treat it right
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