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Old 16 March 2016, 16:25   #21
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Don't know what you paid Stig'73 but the T32 Honwave is often around 900. The Zodiac Acti-V 3.25 is usually discounted to 1345 or so. In my experience there is little practical difference in the quality/performance so you can happily assign the 445 extra the Zodiac would have cost to the expensive Honwave type transom wheels, Bravo pump, insurance and enough fuel for a whole summer.

That's how my man maths works.
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Old 16 March 2016, 16:32   #22
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Don't know what you paid Stig'73 but the T32 Honwave is often around 900. The Zodiac Acti-V 3.25 is usually discounted to 1345 or so. In my experience there is little practical difference in the quality/performance so you can happily assign the 445 extra the Zodiac would have cost to the expensive Honwave type transom wheels, Bravo pump, insurance and enough fuel for a whole summer.

That's how my man maths works.

Your mathematical skills are spot on Fenlander

However I got a bargain.... Last honwave and bravo in the shop, they are not stocking inflatables any longer
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Old 16 March 2016, 18:01   #23
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Don't know what you paid Stig'73 but the T32 Honwave is often around 900. The Zodiac Acti-V 3.25 is usually discounted to 1345 or so. In my experience there is little practical difference in the quality/performance so you can happily assign the 445 extra the Zodiac would have cost to the expensive Honwave type transom wheels, Bravo pump, insurance and enough fuel for a whole summer.

That's how my man maths works.
I like your thinking Fenlander.

Your always very mathematically methodical in your approach to buying and selling / changing Sib set ups.

Puts things in perspective and shows how you don't need to spend and loose a small fortune to have fun in open water.
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As we're talking about man maths and fuel can others chip in here (don't want to divert this topic):

SIB fuel use?
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Old 17 March 2016, 08:19   #25
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ID:	111282- not genuine honwave but 145 and Up to 100kg
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Old 17 March 2016, 08:27   #26
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Is it possible to pass judgement without seeing them in the flesh? I guess if someone has bought/used them they can comment and TBH that's the only voice I would listen to if it were me.

FWIW they look identical to the Honwave ones. Per my previous note one thing I like about the Honwave ones is the 2-position locating them, i.e. straight down when towing on land, but splayed outwards when stowed on the water so staying clear of the OBM.
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Is it possible to pass judgement without seeing them in the flesh? I guess if someone has bought/used them they can comment and TBH that's the only voice I would listen to if it were me.

FWIW they look identical to the Honwave ones. Per my previous note one thing I like about the Honwave ones is the 2-position locating them, i.e. straight down when towing on land, but splayed outwards when stowed on the water so staying clear of the OBM.

I decided to order some, if quality isn't good I can send them back

They do look very similar to genuine honwave
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They look the same as the ones I have, as you say hard to say without looking. I use them with the boat fully loaded and they don't flex etc (repetition)

They also have the two pin positions so you launch in position 1 - legs down and once in the water and floating go to position 2 legs up and splayed, ahem.

Issues are when taking legs/wheels off and afloat is you drop them, other is putting them down to retrieve while afloat. Wheels are full of air so are a bit of a faff to submerge. Two solutions from forum members here are to fit (weld on) arms to assist and/or to part fill with water

Having only launched / retrieved a handful of times using the launch wheels I've not got it down to a fine art, others might help with technique. Overall the usability of the boat single handed goes through the roof, a must have bit of kit for me
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They look the same as the ones I have, as you say hard to say without looking. I use them with the boat fully loaded and they don't flex etc (repetition)

They also have the two pin positions so you launch in position 1 - legs down and once in the water and floating go to position 2 legs up and splayed, ahem.

Issues are when taking legs/wheels off and afloat is you drop them, other is putting them down to retrieve while afloat. Wheels are full of air so are a bit of a faff to submerge. Two solutions from forum members here are to fit (weld on) arms to assist and/or to part fill with water

Having only launched / retrieved a handful of times using the launch wheels I've not got it down to a fine art, others might help with technique. Overall the usability of the boat single handed goes through the roof, a must have bit of kit for me

The wheels on my old futura were the same, difficult to submerge under water

Unless you go for plastic or solid rubber tyres I guess this is always going to be the case
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I've never had any difficulty submerging these type of inflatable wheels - if you think about it, they hold much less air than a football and it's not that difficult to submerge a football... But maybe my wheels are different
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