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Old 21 January 2008, 06:46   #1
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Alternatives to RIBs?!

< Edit: Split from Anyone know of a forum as good as this for hard-hulled boats?! JK >

Help!

Went to the boatshow with Mrs. Lordy last week and now have a bit of a dilemma! (Thanks for your advice so far Cookee!)

Mrs Lordy feels that a SIB will be little more than a ‘taxi’ – it’ll get us from A to B, as long as B isn’t too far – but it has very little ‘living space’. She is very taken with these bowrider/solid hull type boats. We can anchor it and have lunch at sea etc. etc. It will also be safer to venture further afield than just the estuary at Salcombe.

Can see her point, but I'm still sold on a SIB, so may just have to get a smaller second-hand one.

Anyway, now I'm looking at used bowriders. Must admit, there seem to be some bargains out there - and they hold their price well - but I don’t know the first thing about these types of boats/engines, if I’m honest.

Thanks all.

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Old 21 January 2008, 08:05   #2
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Id make sure you get out on one before you buy!
I bought a Crownline BR180 bowrider - Nice boat, well built.
But these boats have a very flat bottom so anything other than a mill pond is a rough ride!!!!

Hope that helps!!
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Totally agree - most of common American style boats just aren't up to typical British conditions. Fine on a nice calm day but how many of those do we get???

If she wants something with a bit of comfort etc that is not a RIB then maybe you should look at things like the Whiteshark and Flyer walk arounds.
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Flat Bottom

Thanks all - the YBW site looks good.

And the flat bottom comments might explain why the chap on the Chris Craft stand kept going on about the deep V hull. (At >50k, I should hope so!)

So - another question. Is there a measurement that refers to the depth (or V'ness) of the hull? I'm sure I've seen something somewhere.

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Totally agree - most of common American style boats just aren't up to typical British conditions. Fine on a nice calm day but how many of those do we get???

If she wants something with a bit of comfort etc that is not a RIB then maybe you should look at things like the Whiteshark and Flyer walk arounds.
Thanks Codprawn!

Yes, most of the bowriders seem to be American. I quite liked the Larson range, not least because they were affordable! Hadn't factored in the flat bottom bit on a fibreglass boat.

I did also look at some of the open boats, like the White Shark, though they didn't look quite as comfy for the passengers. Do they tend to have a deeper hull though?

(Best family boat I saw was a 5.5m Zodiac RIB. One day, one day!!)

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Whitesharks are pretty good in the chop - talking of Bowriders there is one that's pretty good -

http://fletcher-boats.co.uk/boat_showroom.asp

Not as flash as the Yank boats but a great hull and pedigree - British through and through.

To be honest it all depends on budget - how much are you going to spend?

Oh and talking of Forums YBW is good but nothing seems to be a match for Ribnet(see JK even when you moan I stick up for you)!!!
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went out on a Karnic 2050, looks a great boat, saw some ribs playing in the surf, was bluntly told to go nowhere near them, due to the hull not being able to take it, !! i replied, "but we live on a island" basicall it was pretty awfull and not the type of boat to be seen out in anthing but flat calm,

and no i wasnt jumping ship!!
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Is there a measurement that refers to the depth (or V'ness) of the hull? ...
Yup, it is in degrees of the V side to the horizontal usually taken at the transom and sometimes referred to as deadrise. 25-26 is very deep. 22-24 is more common. 18 would be a bit harsh. Many hulls are not a single angle in the V so it's not entirely clear cut.
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A friend has a Whiteshark of @6.5M not sure exactly though.

Have to say I was very impressed with the ride and how dry it was in the rough.

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Whitesharks are pretty good in the chop - talking of Bowriders there is one that's pretty good -

http://fletcher-boats.co.uk/boat_showroom.asp

Not as flash as the Yank boats but a great hull and pedigree - British through and through.

To be honest it all depends on budget - how much are you going to spend?

Oh and talking of Forums YBW is good but nothing seems to be a match for Ribnet(see JK even when you moan I stick up for you)!!!
Thanks Codprawn - I used to have a Fletcher when I worked in Middle East about 25 years ago - it was tiny, but very nippy. I'll revisit the Fletcher boatyard then!

Not sure on whether to go brand new or second-hand - some of these boats certainly seem to keep their value second-hand, so not an awful lot more for a new one (with deals etc.)

Having said that I've seen some second-hand 'yank' boats around the 5/6/7k mark, so was tempted by that route.

Anyway - I'll see what Fletchers go for.

And yes - can't find anything to beat Ribnet!!
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