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Old 09 October 2012, 18:12   #11
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that is too expensive. I bought a 2006 2 stroke tohatsu 25hp with 30hours, a 4m aluminium floor honwave and trailer all in mint condition for £1700.
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Old 09 October 2012, 19:01   #12
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Forget the price for a minute. What are you looking to do with the boat?

IMO, if you want something that can be packed away and taken to the beach for a bit of fun on a sunny, calm day, look for an air floor boat with tiller steering.

If, however, you want something to do some proper miles in, when conditions are anything but perfect, go for a hard floor boat with console steering. Often a small trailer is most practical, also.


There's no way I'd have done anything like what I use my Futura III for if it was an air floor with tiller. It eats miles in all manner of conditions, and was well worth the premium price.
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Old 09 October 2012, 19:35   #13
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I much prefer the tiller , you can do a lot more with tiller steer like play in surf and hang on in the rough easier , once you master it .
Plus there is so much more room in the boat . and you can just lift the engine off and carry it if need be .
Thats surely why the rnli and other small rescue boats use tiller steer .
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Old 10 October 2012, 02:52   #14
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I much prefer the tiller , you can do a lot more with tiller steer like play in surf and hang on in the rough easier , once you master it .
Plus there is so much more room in the boat . and you can just lift the engine off and carry it if need be .
Thats surely why the rnli and other small rescue boats use tiller steer .
Agreed. For tricky water conditions, a tiller is the far better way to go.

I do agree with sharkbyte about the hard floor.
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Interesting point that of tricky conditions and tiller. I really felt confident this summer with 1,5 meter waves. I guess tiller allows you to change direction faster than steer, never thought about that.

In Spain tiller outboards are not allowed beyond 20hp. I understand that tiller steering a flat bottom boat (not Futura) faster than 20 knots can be dangerous... in fact I adjust my 20hp engine tiller to "hard turn" to avoid these accidents.
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Each to their own, I guess, but there's no way I'd be doing 30 mile + offshore fishing trips with tiller steering.
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Each to their own, I guess, but there's no way I'd be doing 30 mile + offshore fishing trips with tiller steering.
You wouldn't catch me more than about 10 miles offshore, tiller or not (i have a tiller) Then again our ocean is unforgiving and ever changing.
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Old 10 October 2012, 19:14   #18
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Each to their own, I guess, but there's no way I'd be doing 30 mile + offshore fishing trips with tiller steering.
Why not , you seem to have an idea that a tiller affords less control or ability

from your vidios you appear to be sat side by side on what looks like a bench seat ? you wouldn't cope with anything like the conditions you can holding a line with one hand and the tiller with another with your legs braced as shock absorbers .

It takes a longer to get used to a tiller i agree but in a small rib or sib its the best way for rough sea controll just watch some vids of lifeguards or the RNLI or zap cat racers .
as for cruising distance just set the friction screw and all you need is one hand resting on the tiller .
if you have a steering damper which is necessary i think for a 40 or 50 then its even easier . I use a bungee cord system from the tiller to the side of the boat and it works very well .
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Interesting point that of tricky conditions and tiller. I really felt confident this summer with 1,5 meter waves. I guess tiller allows you to change direction faster than steer, never thought about that.

In Spain tiller outboards are not allowed beyond 20hp. I understand that tiller steering a flat bottom boat (not Futura) faster than 20 knots can be dangerous... in fact I adjust my 20hp engine tiller to "hard turn" to avoid these accidents.

Interesting. In North America there are lots of +200 hp tiller outboards.

I have been in some large rapids conditions a few times where if I were using remote wheel steering and a lever throttle, things would have gone very badly.
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Interesting. In North America there are lots of +200 hp tiller outboards.

I have been in some large rapids conditions a few times where if I were using remote wheel steering and a lever throttle, things would have gone very badly.
I may be wrong and spanish limit may be 25hp.
But +200hp seems like a Conan adventure.
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