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Old 28 August 2015, 11:19   #21
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Looking for advice on a family car that also can tow a rib without burning the clutch...
Having now a Opel Zafira Tourer 7 seat Diesel( manual). Otherwise a very good and economical car, but the concrete ramp i use for my Rib is too step for it(1st gear too fast). It so and so usable but the clutch don't like it, and the SR 5.4 is absolute maximum, no room for uppgrading.

Now about to change the car but to what? Need occasionally the extra seats(7).
Don't actually need 4wd but guess that will be automatically included anyway.

Thinking about 2015 X-trail(but no reduction gear), 2015 Outlander(no reduction gear, 2000 kg tow limit) or possible a SsangYong Rexton(reduction yes, but kind of old fashion car otherwise).

Outlander is the max on the price tag. Never owned a automatic geared car but understood that they can handle the towing better, what do You say? Would automatic work better for my application than the same car with manual gear?

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Old 28 August 2015, 11:36   #22
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I wouldn't tow with anything but an auto these days


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Have to agree with Dave. I've noticed big difference since I changed to auto BMW X5


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Old 28 August 2015, 12:25   #24
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Wouldn't drive anything other that an auto now. No advantage to manual any more and the comprehensive use of dual mass flywheels in them makes about as much sense as putting a bomb under your floor to kill the spiders.
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Old 28 August 2015, 12:28   #25
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Auto for me too. Just done 800 miles with my old ML towing a SBS single axle 1500Kg. Cruise control eats motorway and it's good on the slip !!
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Auto for me too. Just done 800 miles with my old ML towing a SBS single axle 1500Kg. Cruise control eats motorway and it's good on the slip !!

You just back from Kintyre then. I've just come up for a week looking for some decent wx!!!


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At risk of being boring, auto for me too. I have towed with manuals, DSG auto, (or its various names across the VAG marques) and proper torque converter auto. The torque converter auto is by far the best in my book. Incidentally I was witness to someone not doing a very good job on the slip at Lymington today. The smell and SMOKE from the CLUTCH was not good
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At risk of being boring, auto for me too. I have towed with manuals, DSG auto, (or its various names across the VAG marques) and proper torque converter auto. The torque converter auto is by far the best in my book. Incidentally I was witness to someone not doing a very good job on the slip at Lymington today. The smell and SMOKE from the CLUTCH was not good

Just out of curiosity, what's the difference between a DSG auto & a "proper" auto? Only reason I ask is I have a Transporter DSG & a Disco 4 & I hadn't noticed a difference apart from power & torque of the Disco.


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Old 28 August 2015, 14:22   #29
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Incidentally I was witness to someone not doing a very good job on the slip at Lymington today. The smell and SMOKE from the CLUTCH was not good
Sounds like me... Guess need to start adapting to the idea of using auto.

Noted that the new X-Trail have much more tow capacity with the manual compared to auto, possible the auto gearbox is not that strong on that model. And as the manual will be no good on the ramp, think will exclude that one.
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You need a low ratio box for a manual to work on difficult slips. I just take my foot off the clutch at tick over and sit back.

However Auto is the way to go for a modern tow vehicle.
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