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Old 30 October 2008, 15:15   #31
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Ahh yes agreed, went to Felixstowe docks with a shearwater a few weeks back, love the A12 flat! unfortunately they had operation stack due to high winds, stayed with friends overnight, also love all the boys toys used to load the containers they make 3500kg look daft! ( sorry don't get of the I.O.W enough!)
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Old 30 October 2008, 15:23   #32
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..., also love all the boys toys used to load the containers
..also ideal for launching ribs with...ask Mr Garton..
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Old 30 October 2008, 20:26   #33
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It doesn't mention motorways at all..............

Technically a motorway IS a dual carriageway in many repects.
codders - you might want to go and take a theory test before you do probably best to do some revision with the highway code (rule 124 in particular).
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Old 30 October 2008, 21:51   #34
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codders - you might want to go and take a theory test before you do probably best to do some revision with the highway code (rule 124 in particular).
Ahh now that DOES specifically mention motorways!!!
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Old 31 October 2008, 16:43   #35
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... My Defender is MAM 3050 and legal to tow 3500/4000 with GTW of 6550..off the top of my head..
What type of close coupled brake system does your defender use to allow you take over 3500 KGs Jono ?
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Old 30 December 2008, 20:54   #36
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What about trailer width??

My Touareg is good for up to 3500Kg, and I am happy that the links Jono provided prove that you can tow that weight....

But:

What about the width? I quote:
"If the towing vehicle has a permissible gross weight in excess of 3.5 tonnes the maximum width and length of the trailer are 2.55 metres and 12 metres respectively. If however the gross weight of the towing vehicle is 3.5 tonnes or less then the maximum permissible width and length are 2.3 metres and 7 metres respectively. In both cases the overall length of the towing vehicle and trailer must not exceed either 18m or 18.75m depending on the type of towing vehicle."

Does this 2.3 metre limit refer just to the boat trailer? What if your RIB is 2.6m or even 2.9m wide (as mine is)? Have been told you are allowed up to 30cm overhang either side, but have been unable to confirm this.

Anyone know different?

If you do, then I'm in the.... er, doo doo!

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Old 31 December 2008, 05:41   #37
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I used to tow glider trailers which are nearly always at least 8m long (some more, though generally very narrow) , with a std car ( they are pretty light for thier size) so does this mean they are all illegal as the vehciles are under 3500kg ?

I understood that as the boat becomes the trailer when its secured , yes the 2.3m limit is the boat (? )

One thought - my car ( hyundai Santa fe 07 - OK abuse me ! ) is 1.9m wide - so looking at most caravans which are bloody wide ( ie more then 2.3m) does this mean all the caravans out there towed by std cars are illegal unless towed by something heavier then 3.5t ?

The whole thing is so bloody confusing its no wonder no-one can fully understand (even us educated , smart , intelligent , law abiding boaters ! )

I now go for the theory that if it looks like its well strapped down , nothing is flapping , the tow vehicle & trailer looks maintained , your are driving sensibly etc 'most' coppers will leave you alone . There is however always one awkward one out there !
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Ooops.... never even looked at the length. 7 metres is nowhere near long enough - the boat alone is 7.5 metres! It really is a crock of crap - the law has been overtaken by reality. More worried about insurance to be honest, than some overzealous cop.

Normally don't have to go too far with the boat on the back, but will be towing it from London to Northern Ireland next March. Any advice?

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You can tow trailers a lot longer than that. It is all down to an "indivisable load" - well unless your boat is cut in half I would say it is pretty indivisible to me!!!

Max length of an indivisible load on a trailer is 25.9m overall.

A normal trailer is limited to 7m but that excludes the drawbar. Some trailers have a draw bar over 10' or 3m long!!!

As far as width goes you can have overhangs. Max is 305mm each side so overall width is 3.9m - you can have wider but you have to notify the Police 2 days before you travel..................
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Ooops.... never even looked at the length. 7 metres is nowhere near long enough - the boat alone is 7.5 metres! It really is a crock of crap - the law has been overtaken by reality. More worried about insurance to be honest, than some overzealous cop.

Normally don't have to go too far with the boat on the back, but will be towing it from London to Northern Ireland next March. Any advice?

Mike
Stop worrying!!!

I towed my boat on a CLH trailer and it's perfectly legal - the Police boats are the same size on the same trailers!!!

My overall legth was about the same as an artic.........
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