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Old 17 May 2010, 08:20   #11
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WRT tachos, I was mistaken in my earlier post - If the plated weight of the combo is greater than 3.5 tonnes (which would put most 4x4 vehicles with even a small trailer over the limit!) then you fall under the EU driver's hours rules and will need a tacho fitted - but the 50km radius derogation still applies.
This only applies to good vehicles - I'm not sure whether a landy counts as commercial or private.......I suspect the former.
Actually, scratch that, it seems I was correct the first time. Even if it's a commercial vehicle, p10 of the EU drivers hours has the following exemption:

'Vehicles or combinations of vehicles with a maximum permissible mass not exceeding 7.5t used for the non-commercial carriage of goods'

This means that provided the GTW of the landy and trailer is less than 7.5t you're exempt from EU drivers rules if you're driving for private purposes. It does, however, mean that you're subject to GB rules, but these also allow exemptions for private use (p24).
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Old 20 May 2010, 06:25   #12
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I had an Isuzu NPR two car transporter that was rated at 7.5 tons that was allowed to tow a 750kg trailer, ON A CAR LICENCE! (if you're a old git like me)
so 8250kg gross, so the truck body builders down rated the truck to 6250kg so that the trailer could be rated at 2000kg
Back to 8250 GTW (gross train weight) with a useable loading on the trailer.

However with three reasonable size cars on it it was probably hugely overweight.
But it was new and shiny so the feds never bothered.

Even though the whole combo was forty feet long.

Had to have a tacho though and an operators licence, but no speed limiter because only 7.5 ton so it would cruise at 90 empty.

Probably why they changed the licence regs for you young whipper snappers

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I had an Isuzu NPR two car transporter that was rated at 7.5 tons that was allowed to tow a 750kg trailer, ON A CAR LICENCE! (if you're a old git like me)
so 8250kg gross, so the truck body builders down rated the truck to 6250kg so that the trailer could be rated at 2000kg
Back to 8250 GTW (gross train weight) with a useable loading on the trailer.

However with three reasonable size cars on it it was probably hugely overweight.
But it was new and shiny so the feds never bothered.

Even though the whole combo was forty feet long.

Had to have a tacho though and an operators licence, but no speed limiter because only 7.5 ton so it would cruise at 90 empty.

Probably why they changed the licence regs for you young whipper snappers

Happy days.
And make 7.5 tonners have a limiter now
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