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Old 09 May 2015, 14:35   #21
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I use a Volvo XC60 D5 and on the beach/shingle it has not let me down. Had a LR disco and XC90 before and dont regret the change.
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Old 09 May 2015, 19:12   #22
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I use a Volvo XC60 D5 and on the beach/shingle it has not let me down. Had a LR disco and XC90 before and dont regret the change.
Is an XC60 4WD?
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Old 09 May 2015, 19:41   #23
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Yep it is.
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Old 10 May 2015, 13:52   #24
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Old 11 May 2015, 07:21   #25
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Volvos see to hold there value or have very high mileage.

So starting to warm to a Audi Quattro 2.0 tdi A3 Sportback
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Old 11 May 2015, 07:49   #26
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Another vote for the X trail. I had the same dilemma as you and got the same advise about the discos.

The Xtrail is boring to look at but would say it is one of the more off road soft roaders and easily tows my 6m RIB up slimey slipways.

While not exactly frugal, I like the fact you can turn the 4x4 on and off to increase economy when you need to.
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Old 11 May 2015, 11:11   #27
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i use a 2012 xtrail 171hp for my ribcraft 6.8 and have no problems, great car.

however, i would say you don't want to be towing anything larger than this IMO. I actually got mine re-mapped (not the cheap ebay chip crap) as it was struggling i felt, even though the specs say it can handle a lot more it has to be said, it did need more torque IMO when i got the bigger boat. when i had my old avon 560 it was superb, bags of power. with the re-map i now have considerably more torque and it has transformed the car, i wouldn't bother though for anything less than 1600kg.

the above advice i would be careful with, if you do get a newer xtrail then i leave it in auto mode.

can't leave it in 4wd mode either with mine, as soon as you go above 20-30mph the 4wd disengages unless the computer deems it needs it, not sure if andyjcox has a diff year/model to me though but i've never heard of one staying in 4wd all the time?

auto mode/2wd mode doesn't make an ounce of diff to fuel consumption on mine.

whilst towing i get about 32-34 mpg, on a long run it will get up near 50mpg, can't ask for more really. i should add the remap got me circa 5-10% better fuel economy over standard.

i really doubt there are many better soft 4wd cars out there.

i can say it blows a soft 4wd kuga away, that barely moves the ribcraft as my old man has one.

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Old 11 May 2015, 11:19   #28
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Hi dubrus, thanks for the info about not leaving an xtrail in 2wd or 4wd. I never leave it in 4wd but it spends most of its life in 2wd for the daily commute.

I will check the forums and change my ways to leave it in auto, glad you pointed it out hopefully before a knacker mine (2004 sve model
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To save me a lot of reading, would you mind summarising why it is best left in auto.
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Hi Andy,

Your car and my car are quite different then, i have the "new" 4wd system which adds lots of sensors (more to break!) over the older system.

the reason to leave it in 4wd is basically for safety reasons. the 4wd will engage instantly on mine if left in auto mode as the clutch is spinning already. i.e if things get a bit iffy then the car will sort itself out somewhat if you forget to switch it into auto. i believe the newer system will ignore the 2wd option anyway if it really needs it but depends what tech article you read.

anyways, some good reading here-

Nissan X-TRAIL - All New Chassis | Part Five

i REALLY hope nissan puts a V6 diesel in the new xtrail.....yummy
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Thanks for the info

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Hi Andy,

Your car and my car are quite different then, i have the "new" 4wd system which adds lots of sensors (more to break!) over the older system.

the reason to leave it in 4wd is basically for safety reasons. the 4wd will engage instantly on mine if left in auto mode as the clutch is spinning already. i.e if things get a bit iffy then the car will sort itself out somewhat if you forget to switch it into auto. i believe the newer system will ignore the 2wd option anyway if it really needs it but depends what tech article you read.

anyways, some good reading here-

Nissan X-TRAIL - All New Chassis | Part Five

i REALLY hope nissan puts a V6 diesel in the new xtrail.....yummy
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