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Old 22 June 2004, 07:26   #41
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Becuse it feels very secure and I anly have the RIB on a trailer once or twice a year - only moving it for some few kilometers everytime. It does not seem to "unlike" the strapping.
Well I still think you would be better off using the U bolts in the transom & the bow! Evan for short trips.
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Old 22 June 2004, 07:45   #42
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Fliipin' 'eck, Nick!
Give the guy a break! We do still live in a democracy and everyone's entitled to their own views and methods....as long as there is no danger to others, he can do what he likes to his own boat.
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Old 22 June 2004, 08:23   #43
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Jono so I was a bit grumpy this morning! But I still think this is the wrong way of going around fixing your boat to the trailer & I do not like bad advice to be given out to others when safety is concerned. I did ask for any good reason why to use the over the tube method to which we got "Because it feels very secure and I anly have the RIB on a trailer once or twice a year - only moving it for some few kilometers every time. It does not seem to "unlike" the strapping."
Against

Where on the tubes

Tubes will deflate as temperature goes down this will happen as you are going down the motorway with the cooling effect of the wind!

If you put them on then could then it Worms up they will bite in to the tubes!

The give in the tubes can lead to the boat bouncing around on the trailer.

The list goes on & on, anyone can come up with anything against using the U bolts?
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Old 22 June 2004, 08:42   #44
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This might count?
- My transom is aprox one meter behind the end of the trailer. My thoughts were that this could give some slack and it would be better to pick the straps around the tubes. A 6 minutes drive will not have major impact on the tubes temperature. The trailer could ideally be even longer, but it's not mine and I will not buy one due to pricing, storage and rarely needed.

And it is very easy just to put my very wide 3-4" (7,5-10cm) cargo straps around.
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Old 22 June 2004, 09:20   #45
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Another thing to think about is the difference in weight, an 8mtr rib will load the trailer suspension to a point were it is really working, I noticed the difference between my Tornado (5.4m & 600kgs) and my Pac22 (6.5m & 2000kgs). The Pac22 never really bounces like the Tornado used too. If anything the car needs strapping down and I think that if I didnít use straps it wouldnít move. Having said that I do use Ďuí bolts and strapping. Des
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Old 22 June 2004, 09:34   #46
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This might count?
- My transom is aprox one meter behind the end of the trailer. My thoughts were that this could give some slack and it would be better to pick the straps around the tubes. A 6 minutes drive will not have major impact on the tubes temperature. The trailer could ideally be even longer, but it's not mine and I will not buy one due to pricing, storage and rarely needed.

And it is very easy just to put my very wide 3-4" (7,5-10cm) cargo straps around.

So we are saying that it is alright for popping around the corner but not for long trips?
I should think you would want a bigger trailer for longer trips as well if you have 1 meter overhang as the weight of that Volvo will not be supported by the trailer!
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Old 22 June 2004, 09:37   #47
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Just a couple of points

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A friend has recently noticed that his trailer is bent. The thinking seems to be that the boat has been bouncing and that has bent it. It is now tied down, even to go a few miles.

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The other owner of Renegade had to break very hard once. The boat was only held on by the winch strap. The winch released and the boat rode up over the bow block and stopped with the bow D ring above the top of the rear screen. Aparently it looked like the RIB was trying to hump the car.
It is now tied down with a ratchet strap from the trailer to the aft rings, and fixed to the winch post at the bow.

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Last summer in N Brittany I passed a Dutch combo (20 something ft motor boat) which had come to grief.
The tow car was embeded in the Armco on the central reservation, the trailer (still on the tow hitch) was in the centre lane and the boat was across the inside lane, still attached to the winch.

Tieing down, how ever you do it seems to be a good idea.
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Mark, are you suggesting that some folk don't tie the boat down at all? They only have the winch rope attached?
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Mark, are you suggesting that some folk don't tie the boat down at all? They only have the winch rope attached?
Once followed a 7M+ RIB with a 250 Mercury on the back along the A27 from Pompey to Chichester Marina. When I got there went over to have a look at the beast and noticed that the only attachment to the trailer was the winch strap. Owner said that he did not have a problem with that as "it was a good strong winch" Withdrew hastily and vowed that if I saw him on the road again would turn off at next junction no matter where it went.
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Our dive club have been using straps over the tubes & tied to the trailer by the painter on our SIBís since 1969 without any problems. So when we picked our first RIB from Humber, we didnít think anything wrong when Humber had it attached to the trailer by 2 straps over the tubes & just the winch. (They didnít supply this boat with even a painter to tie it down as a secondary attachment.)
I havenít been too happy while towing like this, because the boat does seem to bounce a lot & after having the winch fail while winching the boat on the trailer I started to have serious concerns.
I changed the winch for one with twice the rating of the old one, but still felt it should have some other way of securing it. This is the first trailer we have had with rollers all the others have banks, so the boats donít slide off the trailers so easy. My biggest concern was the winch would fail & the boat would roll back & maybe snap the painter, thus leaving the boat in the middle of the M25 (it doesnít bare thinking about does it?)
After seeing the thread about the child being killed, someone put a picture on showing a small length of chain between to the trailed & boat. what a simple idea, why hadnít I thought of that? So I was straight down to the DIY store to get a length of chain, & a couple of shackles.
Now reading this thread I have been looking at attaching a couple of ratchet straps to the back of the boat, it doesnít have any D rings on the transom so for the time being I have looped the straps round the A frame.
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