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Old 20 November 2013, 17:08   #41
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Mad ain't it that government have yet again caused more confusion
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Nos it says mam of trailer does not exceed unladen weight of vehicle which I also Kerb weight.
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I know. But that bit of txt I cant believe how many ways it can be read...
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Right we getting there
So as my nav is 1994kg unladen
Mam on trailer potentially 1200kg mam
1994kg+1200kg = 3194kg
That's within the law of 3500kg mam
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Listen to SW boat transport. He's entirely correct, as is the text in the link Blueboy posted.
Kerbweight means nothing. It's down to the MAM of the tow vehicle PLUS the MAM of the trailer-IF the trailer is over 750kg.

Your trailer has no MAM plate. With no MAM plate, 'potential' means nothing.An old '1200' sticker means nothing either. It needs documentation (ie a MAM plate) for the law to act on it.

You either need a 750kg trailer, or a B+E licence. It's feasable and practical IF the current boat on trailer with normal kit onboard weighs under 750kg to effectively convert your trailer to an unbraked 750kg trailer and to stick a 750kg MAM plate on it.

However, it'd be a far better idea to go take the B+E test and then never have to worry about it.
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Nos, am I not getting what u are saying because it's not, as per the link ? Or are u meaning if the trailer has no plate at all !?
It's the kerbweight and it was done like this to stop tail wagging the dog and to keep the weight down. The new revisions really do bring it down.
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Nos I don't know if trailer has or hasn't got plate yet , need to check in 3 weeks when home.
Blue boys links on gov site states:
if trailer is more than 750kg as long as it does not exceed the unladen weight of vehicle & combined does not exceed 3500kg mam
I should be ok if this correct
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Nos I don't know if trailer has or hasn't got plate yet , need to check in 3 weeks when home.
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if trailer is more than 750kg as long as it does not exceed the unladen weight of vehicle & combined does not exceed 3500kg mam
I should be ok if this correct
No. You are reading what you want to see not what is written.
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Nos it says mam of trailer does not exceed unladen weight of vehicle which I also Kerb weight.
Yeah, but... All that bit of text means is that on a cat B licence you can't have a trailer that can possibly weigh more than the unladen weight of the car towing it.

For example:-

Car weighs 1500kg unladen and has a MAM of 2000kg then the maximum MAM of the trailer can be 1500kg (3500kg in total).

Car weighs 1400kg unladen and has a MAM of 2000kg then the maximum MAM of the trailer can be 1400kg (3400kg in total).

Car weighs 1100kg unladen and has a MAM of 1500kg then the maximum MAM of the trailer can be 1100kg (2600kg in total).

HOWEVER.

If the car weighs 1500kg unladen and has a MAM of 3000kg then the maximum MAM of the trailer can be 750kg (3500kg rule).

If the car weighs 2000kg unladen and has a MAM of 3000kg then the maximum MAM of the trailer can be 750kg (3750kg in total).
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Nos I don't know if trailer has or hasn't got plate yet , need to check in 3 weeks when home.
Blue boys links on gov site states:
if trailer is more than 750kg as long as it does not exceed the unladen weight of vehicle & combined does not exceed 3500kg mam
I should be ok if this correct
The text is correct, but you are reading it wrongly. It says "combined does not exceed 3500kg mam". This means plated gross weight of vehicle plus plated gross weight of trailer.
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Yeah, but... All that bit of text means is that on a cat B licence you can't have a trailer that can possibly weigh more than the unladen weight of the car towing it.

For example:-

Car weighs 1500kg unladen and has a MAM of 2000kg then the maximum MAM of the trailer can be 1500kg (3500kg in total).

Car weighs 1400kg unladen and has a MAM of 2000kg then the maximum MAM of the trailer can be 1400kg (3400kg in total).

Car weighs 1100kg unladen and has a MAM of 1500kg then the maximum MAM of the trailer can be 1100kg (2600kg in total).

HOWEVER.

If the car weighs 1500kg unladen and has a MAM of 3000kg then the maximum MAM of the trailer can be 750kg (3500kg rule).

If the car weighs 2000kg unladen and has a MAM of 3000kg then the maximum MAM of the trailer can be 750kg (3750kg in total).
Completely agree
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