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Old 01 November 2012, 15:53   #51
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LAND CRUISER AMAZON WITHOUT DOUBT

25 years in the motor trade led to an alergy to anything landrover

I currently own a merc ml & its the bigest pile of s--- Ive ever owned think its the germans revenge for losing the war
previous car was a landcruiser amazon of 1998 did 160k miles never missed a beat sold it & the guy who bought it still has it over 200k miles now and still going strong wish id kept it!
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Old 01 November 2012, 16:21   #52
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Also got an ML, tows well, comfy,quiet,@25 mpg (270 diesel), crap electrics, poor finish, expensive parts, reasonable 4wd system, 7 seats, good on motorways, wallows & bounces around B roads !!
Mixed bag.
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Old 01 November 2012, 18:06   #53
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We change the Land Cruiser suspension and can make them fairly nimble to drive considering its size. The hydraulic version that can raise and lower itself can be troublesome. Some of the early 100 series models used to have a problem with the rear ride sensors and it would start humping its ass up and down when stationary, not dissimilar to dog on your leg. when we prep these for overland stuff, we bin all the hydraulics and convert it back to good quality springs, torsion bars and shocks. Keep it simple.
Problem that the big 4x4' SUV's have is that everything is a compromise, it depends where the manufacturers decide to do it. The Land cruiser had always traditionally been the sort of vehicle you could jump in and drive round the world with virtually no preparation. The original Range Rovers could do the same. However as they became a fashion icon, the manufacturers have tried to make them more car like and the abilities and toughness have been left behind. In my opinion, the last comfortable proper 4x4 was the mid 90's 80 series Land Cruiser. 4.2 turbo diesel, capable of 100+ MPH on road, reasonable handling and will still go most places off road. I regret selling mine, it was the best car I have owned.
4.2 Cruiser or 3.0 Patrol or Shogun.

The answer's on the wall.

Enjoy motoring and getting your tub to the water. Not, "getting taxis to the garage that's stiffing you for a five year old motor that sits on its haunches and is too messed up for the software to deal with".

Get a proper car, get a Japanese 4x4.

Everybody with a smile has.

The groaning munters have Land Rovers
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We have run 2 x Disco 3s and now got a Disco 4. All been great tow cars and will pull anything. Covered over 300,000 miles in total and not been let down once.
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Old 01 November 2012, 19:06   #55
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I have a ML320CDI, fantastic tow car, get 1 with Airmatic suspension and it makes it a lot better on the road.
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Old 01 November 2012, 19:52   #56
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Most of the Jap vehicles are pretty good on the reliability front. Mitsubishi spares are
stupidly expensive and the Shogun is probably one of the most troublesome models, especially on steering and suspension. Isuzu's are good and usually have grunty engines, but are more basic in build quality. The Nissan Patrols of old were one of the toughest vehicles built. Problem with most of the Japs are corrosion, they all seem to suffer in the UK environment. i am currently giving an 05 100 series Land Cruiser a make over. The customer is prepared to spend 15 rejuvenating a 7 year year old Land Cruiser, rather than buy a new one (which he could afford), as he doesn't think the new ones are as good. Land Rovers are a mixed bag, depends how lucky you are. I obviously only hear the bad stuff, as no one is going to ring me up to say how thrilled they are with their vehicle. Whilst they have some seriously talented engineers at Solihull, the end product is always ultimately designed by the bean counters and the seriously overpriced product is allowed to go on the market with serious design flaws. Also, why is it cheaper to buy a Solihull product cheaper in the USA than here, where it hasn't been shipped halfway round the world and then had import duty etc added? Being a home produced product, we should be able to buy it cheaper than anyone else in the world! I like what Land Rover were, not what they have become.
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...The answer's on the wall...Get a proper car, get a Japanese 4x4. Everybody with a smile has...
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My first consideration would be the intended use of the vehicle. If it was mostly highway and the odd slipway for launching then I would be tempted to buy a 2 wheel drive people carrier type van with limited slip differential. My experience with them has been very good especially where comfort and economy in maintenance and servicing are concerned. However, if I was planning on doing any serious offroading and launching from beaches then I would buy a 4wd with beam axle front and back rather than stub axles on the front. Just to be sure that wheels stayed in contact with the ground. I'd also want well sealed bearings and fairly corrosion proof bodywork and chassis. Diesel is better for beaches I find as it tends to suffer less when the engine bay becomes inundated.
If I wanted to launch off road and have comfort on the highway then I would compromise and get a 4wd with stub axles on the front.
Hope that's of use. Al
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if I was planning on doing any serious offroading and launching from beaches then I would buy a 4wd with beam axle front and back rather than stub axles on the front. Just to be sure that wheels stayed in contact with the ground
You don't need beam axles to keep wheels in contact with the ground. You only need them for a crap ride

By the way, beam axles have stub axles
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