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Old 31 October 2012, 14:27   #41
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We just had a gearbox fail on BMW X5 which was under one of these warranty insurance scams/schemes. Despite it genuinely being a sudden failure with no warning signs or prior issues they refused to pay out, firstly due to what they deemed wear rather than failure, then when that was proven wrong they refused on the grounds that the car wasn't fully serviced within 14 days of taking the policy out - even though it was under full main dealer service history and had just been fully MOT & serviced 2 weeks before the breakdown - to keep in line with the manufacturer timeline

Waste of money, time and energy. AVOID
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Old 31 October 2012, 15:23   #42
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Crazy system when dealers/manufacturers wriggle out of their obligations on what you would consider a guarantee on what are effectively new items !!!
A lot of it's down to the individual who initially deals with your claim, getting them on your side is half the battle!!
Consumer rights are sadly a fantasy unless you have very deep pockets!
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[QUOTE="Razorbill RIBs"]Slight threadd-drift, but sort of on topic..... One for John really....how /are warranties affected if the vehicle is used 'off road' (is slipway is classed as off-road)?

I think I remember reading a thread on here a few years ago re a RR Sport and bent chassis(?) which LR refused to pay out on as he'd used it off road lny aunching a boat on a slip.....or similar....

You would have to say that's not fit for purpose
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When the MOD bought the then new Wolf Defenders in the 90's, they asked for warranty on them and were told they could have warranty but it would be void if used off road...
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When the MOD bought the then new Wolf Defenders in the 90's, they asked for warranty on them and were told they could have warranty but it would be void if used off road...
And at some stage this is funny? They also offer a corrosion warranty as long as the bugger hasn't started rusting. And what about their breakdown cover.......only valid if the vehicle was moving when it broke down. And one other (but I have at least a hundred others ), "This car spends it's time off road", yes it does........on a four post ramp being fixed under warranty.
All the time.............stay away.
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I'm not going to pretend that every warranty scheme is perfect, there are clear examples of things not working out above, however what you don't hear about is when things do work out! The scheme we use was recently recommended by "The Telegraph" and the vehicle has a comprehensive check before it leaves us. Before choosing this scheme we worked hard at finding one that wasn't a waste of time and we found a few!

As fas as I know slipways aren't off road but I doubt salt water immersion would be covered - that's an insurance job!
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Go for the merc of you want comfort. The build quality of mercs has rocketed, back to the real old days I quality. It's a discerning choice with real class. BMW if you want to drive like a car and look good. Though if you're off roading or going in the desert then fine, a wallowy Toyota as per UN. Friends with D4s love them, but both they and RR sports seem to always get electrical problems and are in and out of dealers once a few years old.

I am not sure about the build quality of Mercs.. But the GL is very nice drive though. Comfortable, good handling, good viz and very car like to drive.
I drove a Landcruiser VX Amazon (not the new model) recently handles like a truck...it wallows around corners and under braking it seems unsure.
I also drove a Landcruiser 3L for a long spin towing which was like driving a heavy commercial in comparison to the Merc Ml that I
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We change the Land Cruiser suspension and can make them fairly nimble to drive considering its size. The hydraulic version that can raise and lower itself can be troublesome. Some of the early 100 series models used to have a problem with the rear ride sensors and it would start humping its ass up and down when stationary, not dissimilar to dog on your leg. when we prep these for overland stuff, we bin all the hydraulics and convert it back to good quality springs, torsion bars and shocks. Keep it simple.
Problem that the big 4x4' SUV's have is that everything is a compromise, it depends where the manufacturers decide to do it. The Land cruiser had always traditionally been the sort of vehicle you could jump in and drive round the world with virtually no preparation. The original Range Rovers could do the same. However as they became a fashion icon, the manufacturers have tried to make them more car like and the abilities and toughness have been left behind. In my opinion, the last comfortable proper 4x4 was the mid 90's 80 series Land Cruiser. 4.2 turbo diesel, capable of 100+ MPH on road, reasonable handling and will still go most places off road. I regret selling mine, it was the best car I have owned.
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We change the Land Cruiser suspension and can make them fairly nimble to drive considering its size. The hydraulic version that can raise and lower itself can be troublesome. Some of the early 100 series models used to have a problem with the rear ride sensors and it would start humping its ass up and down when stationary, not dissimilar to dog on your leg. when we prep these for overland stuff, we bin all the hydraulics and convert it back to good quality springs, torsion bars and shocks. Keep it simple.
Problem that the big 4x4' SUV's have is that everything is a compromise, it depends where the manufacturers decide to do it. The Land cruiser had always traditionally been the sort of vehicle you could jump in and drive round the world with virtually no preparation. The original Range Rovers could do the same. However as they became a fashion icon, the manufacturers have tried to make them more car like and the abilities and toughness have been left behind. In my opinion, the last comfortable proper 4x4 was the mid 90's 80 series Land Cruiser. 4.2 turbo diesel, capable of 100+ MPH on road, reasonable handling and will still go most places off road. I regret selling mine, it was the best car I have owned.
Got to agree with you there fella gone are the days when you could go across Africa and mend your truck with a screwdriver and a hammer and a pair of pliers
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