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Old 28 December 2009, 08:11   #11
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Whats the score when it comes to MOT time with these ?
As has been already stated these are illegal if not used with self leveling, I have had some ebay ones fitted to my van 4500 colour temp for 2 years and one has only just failed, they are good but not designed to be used with the halogen reflectors as they throw the incorrect beam, that said they are an improvement and have gone through 2 MOT tests so INMHO worth fitting.
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Old 28 December 2009, 08:21   #12
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Andy, I think you've got identical headlights to mine in your Isuzu. If you have (and mine are pretty poor!) avoid any bulbs with colouring on the outside as they look really impressive 'til you get somewhere out of town when you'll suddenly realise (as I did)you can't see much at all. The best I found were a standard big brand H4 type.
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Old 28 December 2009, 08:39   #13
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Andy, I think you've got identical headlights to mine in your Isuzu. If you have (and mine are pretty poor!) avoid any bulbs with colouring on the outside as they look really impressive 'til you get somewhere out of town when you'll suddenly realise (as I did)you can't see much at all. The best I found were a standard big brand H4 type.
Yeh probably, I can't see why Isuzu would put differently designed lenses and reflectors on such similar models.

I've asked this question on ITOC too and am not getting a good response. Some are saying Rings and the HID is getting the thumbs up, but that's not what I want.

As far as I can see the Phillips is a clear bulb and is the favorite at the moment just over £17 on ebay inc postage
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Old 28 December 2009, 09:08   #14
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Yeh probably, I can't see why Isuzu would put differently designed lenses and reflectors on such similar models.

I've asked this question on ITOC too and am not getting a good response. Some are saying Rings and the HID is getting the thumbs up, but that's not what I want.

As far as I can see the Phillips is a clear bulb and is the favorite at the moment just over £17 on ebay inc postage
Let me know what your results are mate-it'd be nice to be able to see where I'm going
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Old 28 December 2009, 09:10   #15
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Let me know what your results are mate-it'd be nice to be able to see where I'm going
Yeh, I'll let you know what ones I go for and how they compare.

I just need someone who's used the Phillips to give me a recommendation. Bedajim?
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The Ring and Philips units are effectively the same, the Rings being cheaper!
They are a simple replacement and give a noticeable light increase. To go one better you need to fit completely new units with ballasts etc., SOME of which may be illegal for normal road use but produce a much brighter light.
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Andy,

This might be useful?

http://www.autoexpress.co.uk/product...e_test_30.html

I use Philips and Osrams, they are definitely brighter but in my experience burn out pretty quickly. I dont think mine have lasted longer than 6 months.
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So possibly the bulbs burn out quicker because they burn brighter? I'd expect a high performance bulb to last at least a year and a half of normal driving, if not longer.
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Yeh, I'll let you know what ones I go for and how they compare.

I just need someone who's used the Phillips to give me a recommendation. Bedajim?
Andy, the lights on the old Panzer wagon are pathetic, so like you I thought about an upgrade. Just received a set of the Philips X-treme bulbs, and will try to fit them tomorrow. I'll let you know what the improvement is
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HID's are the most effective. Granted they may not be legal if you don't have self levelling and washers on your head lights.

I've never failed an MOT on various cars and the police have never had any problems with them at their drink driver stops where they check the car over.

On the Volvo's they last about two years and thats with day time running lights.
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