Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 07 February 2008, 18:04   #1
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
Electric handbrakes again

They should be banned on a car with manual transmission!!!

I know I have complained about the Passat's electric handbrake before but tonight took the biscuit. I parked on a very steep hill - prob a 1:4 facing downwards.

When I got back to the car someone had parked 2' in front of me. I went to reverse back and the brakes wouldn't release. The other option is to release manually by putting your foot on the brake. Trouble is without 3 feet how do you operate the clutch and accelerator at the same time? Heel and toe is out cos the pedals are crap. I tried again and then the brakes suddenly released when least expected. I shot forwards and this time I was about 10" from the car in front.

I was now in a bit of a predicament - I didn't dare try again that close. Luckily the house I was parked outside was having some building work done. They looked a bit suprised when I asked to borrow 2 housebricks but they did the job nicely!!! I wonder if all new VWs should come with a few in the boot..............
__________________

__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 February 2008, 05:01   #2
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Lee on the Solent
Boat name: Saintlee
Make: Leeway
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude DI 115
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 325
Take your Landrover and then you won't have a problem apparently!


But then of course you'd have nothing to whine about!
__________________

__________________
Lostboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 February 2008, 05:57   #3
RIBnet admin team
 
Nos4r2's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 12,826
RIBase
Enough.
__________________
Need spares,consoles,consumables,hire,training or even a new boat?

Please click HERE and HERE and support our Trade Members.

Join up as a Trade member or Supporter HERE
Nos4r2 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 February 2008, 08:38   #4
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes
Length: 8m +
Engine: 225 Opti
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 551
Anyone here had the EPB fail on a Disco 3 yet?
__________________
Rodan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 February 2008, 09:02   #5
DJL
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Make: Ribcraft 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF175TG
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 929
Do EPB's actually have an purpose other than making life easier for those who can't drive properly?

I've never used one, but it just seem to be over complicating something for no reason? (not uncommon)
__________________
DJL is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 February 2008, 09:22   #6
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodan View Post
Anyone here had the EPB fail on a Disco 3 yet?
Yes - I took a brand new one for a test drive. Before I got in it i asked the salesman if there were problems with the EPD - no he said - they are great. We got into the car and there was a horrible grinding crunching noise. The look on the salesman's face was priceless. Yes it WAS the EPB playing up - it was an auto so had to use park instead!!!
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 February 2008, 09:24   #7
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostboy View Post
Take your Landrover and then you won't have a problem apparently!


But then of course you'd have nothing to whine about!

And there was me thinking that by posting my experiences with a variety of hire cars I may just help people avoid problems - obviously not I am just whining.........
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 February 2008, 10:17   #8
Member
 
Kernow Buoy's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Cornwall
Length: no boat
Join Date: Oct 2004
Posts: 1,518
Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodan View Post
Anyone here had the EPB fail on a Disco 3 yet?
Not on mine fortunately but there have been all sorts of issues with them especially on the 04/05 ones, LR did an 'enhancement' program early on which involved a mod to the actual shoes, been much better since then but those that use them for serious offroading have been advised to clean them every 3000 or so miles.
__________________
Kernow Buoy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 February 2008, 12:01   #9
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Lee on the Solent
Boat name: Saintlee
Make: Leeway
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude DI 115
Join Date: Jul 2006
Posts: 325
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn View Post
And there was me thinking that by posting my experiences with a variety of hire cars I may just help people avoid problems - obviously not I am just whining.........
Very community spirited. How come it took you so long to post the problems that you had with the Disco 3 then?
__________________
Lostboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 February 2008, 12:03   #10
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lostboy View Post
Very community spirited. How come it took you so long to post the problems that you had with the Disco 3 then?
I thought I had before.

Remember it is not one manufacturer I am attacking - it's the whole stupid concept of making things to complicated for their own good. If it aint broke don't try to fix it!!!
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09 February 2008, 06:59   #11
Member
 
Nick Hearne's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,246
No problem with mine on my 05 D3!
__________________
Nick Hearne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09 February 2008, 10:33   #12
ADS
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,410
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn View Post
I thought I had before.

Remember it is not one manufacturer I am attacking - it's the whole stupid concept of making things to complicated for their own good. If it aint broke don't try to fix it!!!

As much as i hate to agree with Codders he is right, electronic handbrakes are a backwards step. I posted my experiences of a Disco 3 manual and electronic handbrake combo in another thread, absolutely useless in a manual fine in an auto but that defeats the object.
__________________
ADS is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 February 2008, 03:52   #13
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Cowes
Length: 8m +
Engine: 225 Opti
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 551
I actually quite like the EPB itself but not the fact that it didn't make 20000miles. Replaced under warranty and the service center was excellent. the noise was truly awful!
__________________
Rodan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 July 2008, 07:16   #14
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
Just had to drag this thread up again..........

I had a really important business meeting that I had been waiting ages for. The bloke I was supposed to be meeting phoned me and hour before to say he wouldn't be able to make it.

The electric handbrake on his Audi A6 came on while he was driving and brought him to a sudden stop. No way of releasing it. In the end the RAC bloke had to remove the brake pads so he could get to a garage.

Modern technology eh!!!
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 July 2008, 13:43   #15
Member
 
Bigmuz7's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,068
Well I was wondering what the 'release' tool in my X5 boot was for ..... now I know
__________________
Bigmuz7 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 July 2008, 15:07   #16
RIBnet supporter
 
bedajim's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Cambs/Northants
Length: no boat
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 2,499
Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn View Post
Just had to drag this thread up again..........

I had a really important business meeting that I had been waiting ages for. The bloke I was supposed to be meeting phoned me and hour before to say he wouldn't be able to make it.

The electric handbrake on his Audi A6 came on while he was driving and brought him to a sudden stop. No way of releasing it. In the end the RAC bloke had to remove the brake pads so he could get to a garage.

Modern technology eh!!!
So he drove with no brake pads or was it recovered
__________________
bedajim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 July 2008, 16:54   #17
Member
 
Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
Posts: 12,791
Quote:
Originally Posted by bedajim View Post
So he drove with no brake pads or was it recovered
I am not sure. It may be that there is a sperate caliper or they needed to release it to get it on the truck - I should see him on Monday to find out.
__________________
codprawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10 July 2008, 06:42   #18
Member
 
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 3,712
The D3 has a separate cable operated set of pads for the handbrake so I imagine others will be the same. IIRC it is illegal to have a hydraulically operated handbrake or something, so you can't use the normal calipers and nobody wants to have cable operated service brakes in the 20th century
__________________
A Boat is a hole in the water, surrounded by fibreglass, into which you throw money...

Sent from my Computer, using a keyboard and mouse
BogMonster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11 July 2008, 10:43   #19
RIBnet admin team
 
Poly's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: imposter
Make: FunYak
Length: 3m +
Engine: Tohatsu 30HP
MMSI: 235089819
Join Date: Sep 2005
Posts: 11,034
Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster View Post
The D3 has a separate cable operated set of pads for the handbrake so I imagine others will be the same. IIRC it is illegal to have a hydraulically operated handbrake or something, so you can't use the normal calipers and nobody wants to have cable operated service brakes in the 20th century
you can have a cable operating in parallel with the hydraulics though - what doesn't make sense is how with brakes effectively jammed on you would actually get the brake pad out though!
__________________
Poly is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04 October 2008, 04:55   #20
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Boat name: Angel-B
Make: Ex Y boat
Length: 3m +
Engine: Suzuki 9.9HP
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 594
I'll probably get shot for bringing this thread up again but having had the very brief 'pleasure' of a Kia Carens hire car I just had to vent.

I've driven a few hire cars with EPBs, and whilst they strike me as pointless and a backward step I haven't had a major issue with them.

The Kia went one better though (roll on the drums...) - a foot operated parking brake

Basically you get a fourth pedal to the left of the clutch, and a little lever on the dash. To apply the parking brake, you push down the pedal with your clutch foot (so you have to hold the car on the brakes and put it into neutral before applying parking brake) - to release it you pull the lever on the dash.

I can see that this may be ok with an automatic, but in a manual?

Cheers

Chris
__________________

__________________
chris123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:55.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2020, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.