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Old 25 November 2009, 14:38   #11
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I think you are comparing Apples and Pears, and the result depends on what you want to do with a car.

The 3.2 Shogun, which a lot of people on here know I am rather bias towards, is a proper 7 seater, with a decent low ratio transfer box, plus centre and rear locking diffs. With the right tyres it's very good off road.

The Merc is a completely different car that is an awful lot better on road than the Shogun and has some very clever electronics that let it perform reasonably well off road.

If you want a good tow car with proper on road manners that will cope with a slipway then the merc is probably better, throw in the odd off road trip fully loaded, want to carry more stuff, or spend more than 10% of your time on back lanes, tracks or proper off road then the Shogun will win hands down.

Personally I prefer the look of the Shogun.

Oh, and that old 2.7 lump isn't a match for the 3.2 Mitsubishi lump.

Just my opinion.

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Old 27 November 2009, 13:09   #12
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'Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak out and remove all doubt'.
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Old 27 November 2009, 16:36   #14
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Can I ask if you believe the above?
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Can I ask if you believe the above?
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http://rib.net/forum/search.php?searchid=1501624 He's a Speed Typist! KY couldn't hold a candle to him :-)
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Me?? provoke a reaction?? never!!

this forum will answer your questions

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Old 24 December 2009, 19:34   #18
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I'm all for Land Rovers.
Depends what you want it for though?
If you look purely at figures then the percentage of Land Rovers made and the amount still on the road would point it towards been better.

A quick look at running costs suggests the Landy would be better too, how much was the DMFW....
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I had a 2004 ML 270cdi. I towed lots of heavy boats, dragons etchells big ribs trailers etc over long distances. It was a great towing car and really comfortable. It was also pretty good offload.... It has an electronic switch on the dashboard for a crawler gear which is great for recovering boats on a slip or towing heavy loads up hill.
I did however have only one problem with it... the electric heated seat had a fault that burned my arse!OUCH!!! Merc replaced the seat FOC but the Merc dealer locally was absolutely DREADFUL!
Super car i would recommend it and would buy my old one back!
So it was shit hot then
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