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Old 06 May 2008, 23:41   #1
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Is it legal to over-power a RIB in California?

The maximum power allowed is 115hp. If I put a 150hp on this RIB, is it legal in California? Can it be registered? Can it get insurance? Thanks!
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Old 07 May 2008, 09:09   #2
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I don't specifically know about California, but here in Ontario it would be legal, but you might have issues with insurance, especially with the liability aspect. I inquired about this verything recently...

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Old 07 May 2008, 11:48   #3
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It's legal, but you likely will have trouble getting insurance (probably.)

[Note: I have heard of people who fess up to insurance companies about beyond max-spec power installations getting coverage, but can't provide details, as I don't remember them.]

Your best bet would be to talk to the insurance co.'s prior to making the change.

Registration in California shouldn't be a problem. They're just worried about the hull ID number. As I recall, they ask what kind of propulsion (motor, oars, sail), not size or specs or anything like that.

Calif. Reg (DMV) form is here:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/boat/boat101.htm

You will also have to register the trailer (assuming you have one); form is here:
http://www.dmv.ca.gov/forms/reg/reg4017.pdf

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Thank you so much!
I am new in boating and I don't know whether there is any regulation in the water. Can I drive the boat anywhere around Bay Area?

By the way, do you know any good place to buy a yamaha engine and install it on the boat?

Thanks again,
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Overpowering would be a really stupid thing to do then!

Get some experience first.
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Overpowering would be a really stupid thing to do then!

Why? Putting a 150hp engine doesn't mean I have to use up 150 horse power. I just need some back up power and I can get higher cruising speed. Could you tell me what is the stupid thing?
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Why? Putting a 150hp engine doesn't mean I have to use up 150 horse power. I just need some back up power and I can get higher cruising speed. Could you tell me what is the stupid thing?
If your boat is rated for 115hp and you want more backup power,you need a bigger boat that's rated to take more power. Overpowering will ruin the balance,handling and probably overload the transom-with weight as well as power. As you say you have no experience,then the first mistake is likely to hurt. A lot.

I don't want to sound like I'm preaching here, but you admit you know nothing about boats yet you want to ignore some fairly fundamental rules like max HP. That's a pretty stupid thing to do...specially in a country where people sue to pass the time.
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Why? Putting a 150hp engine doesn't mean I have to use up 150 horse power. I just need some back up power and I can get higher cruising speed. Could you tell me what is the stupid thing?
I strongly suggest you listen to NOSR4. Bigger is not always better. Why do you think you need "backup power" ?
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I'd agree with Nos and LL.

The max power rating of a hull is not some arbitrary number; it was figured by the manufacturer as an adequate amount of power for the hull, while keeping handling characteristics within range of consumer/users.

The problem with ignoring the spec (from a strictly liability standpoint) is twofold: First, as mentioned, you'll have problems getting your vessel insured. Second, if *anything* happens wherein someone is injured, the opposing attorneys will likely have you found reckless and at fault.

As far as boating in the SF Bay Area, buy a chart, and take a look. There's quite a bit of room for boating in the SF Bay and connecting waterways (Oakland Estuary, San Pablo Bay, Sacto River, Pacific Ocean, etc.) but listing places you cannot go (either by mandate or environmental factors) are too numerous to catalog.

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Sorry; As to your last question, The Outboard Motor Shop in Oakland is one of the major players in the Bay Area.
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Thanks for the information and suggestions.
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